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#OTalk 9th July 2013. Professional Boundaries, Hosted by Darren Gormley

Many thanks to our guest host Darren Gormley for facilitating this thought provoking discussion.

Chat transcrip has been taken from Health Care Hash Tags, http://hashtags.symplur.com/healthcare-hashtag-transcript.php?hashtag=OTalk&fdate=07-08-2013&shour=16&smin=0&tdate=07-10-2013&thour=11&tmin=0&ssec=00&tsec=00&img=1

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OTalk_Occhat
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GillyGorry
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Helen_otuk
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kirstyes
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BAOTCOT
#OTalk this week is looking at professional boundaries. Follow the hashtag from 8pm. #Otalk #OTuesday http://t.co/ZI01WgGBsW

Symbolic_Life
RT @BAOTCOT#OTalk this week is looking at professional boundaries. Follow the hashtag from 8pm. #Otalk #OTuesday http://t.co/ZI01WgGBsW

cariad_mawr
RT @BAOTCOT#OTalk this week is looking at professional boundaries. Follow the hashtag from 8pm. #Otalk #OTuesday http://t.co/ZI01WgGBsW

ASD_AOTA
RT @BAOTCOT#OTalk this week is looking at professional boundaries. Follow the hashtag from 8pm. #Otalk #OTuesday http://t.co/ZI01WgGBsW

MrDarrenGormley
Very excited to be guest hosting tonights #OTalk on ‘professional boundaries’ http://t.co/DOtek7YNJO #dementia #compassion #socialcare #nhs

clissa89
RT @BAOTCOT#OTalk this week is looking at professional boundaries. Follow the hashtag from 8pm. #Otalk #OTuesday http://t.co/ZI01WgGBsW

_beckyOT
RT @BAOTCOT#OTalk this week is looking at professional boundaries. Follow the hashtag from 8pm. #Otalk #OTuesday http://t.co/ZI01WgGBsW

Helen_otuk
MT @MrDarrenGormley: Very excited to be guest hosting 8pm #OTalk on ‘professional boundaries’ http://t.co/enNuDEk8PA < looking forward to it

Dai2584
#OTalk on Professional Boundaries. http://t.co/cMe6mkrSX0 via @wordpressdotcom

clissa89
@emerging2OT @morrisKOT think doing an #otalk is a great idea

MrDarrenGormley
For those joining #OTalk tonight from 8pm a brief background on your guest host http://t.co/FL0QEN87Ek #dementia

GillyGorry
@OTalk_Occhathttp://t.co/4ypYYV6qFQ Tonight #OTalk will be discussing… http://t.co/l86wcXpHRu” 30 mins!! @MrDarrenGormley @BAOTCOT

MrDarrenGormley
RT @GillyGorry: “@OTalk_Occhathttp://t.co/4ypYYV6qFQ Tonight #OTalk will be discussing… http://t.co/l86wcXpHRu” 30 mins!! @MrDarrenGorm

OTalk_Occhat
RT @MrDarrenGormley: For those joining #OTalk tonight from 8pm a brief background on your guest host http://t.co/FL0QEN87Ek #dementia

CarmenNQ_OT
Looking forward to #OTalk kicking off tonight – Discussing professional boundaries! Pop in and join the conversation 🙂 #OTuesday

BillWongOT
@CarmenNQ_OT ditto! #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @CarmenNQ_OT: Looking forward to #OTalk kicking off tonight – Discussing professional boundaries! Pop in and join the conversation 🙂 #O

Dai2584
#otalk looking forward to this

clissa89
Just walked in the door and have a few things to do before I can sit down – hope to be able to join #otalk a bit later

GillyGorry
Tonight’s #otalk is guest hoisted by @MrDarrenGormley and we will be discussing professional boundaries. Who’s online???

Helen_otuk
Good evening all #OTalk

Dai2584
Evening all #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
Some excellent thoughts already posted on tonight’s #OTalk topic of professional boundaries http://t.co/YHH0yxTSBv > any more?

Helen_otuk
Looking forward to @MrDarrenGormley and professional boundaries this evening. #Otalk

BillWongOT
@GillyGorry @MrDarrenGormley here! #otalk

Words4Wellbeing
Good evening everyone 🙂 #OTalk

Dai2584
Listern to interesting programme on R4 where they were debating whether a therapist could cry in front of a patient. #otalk

Maria_Markland
Hi everyone! I’ve missed a few #OTalk s but the essays are in and I’m glad to be back! 🙂

Helen_otuk
@Dai2584 i think it can depend on the situation? #Otalk

MrDarrenGormley
Would be great to hear the thoughts of family #carers on tonight’s #OTalk topic ‘professional boundaries’ > @nursemaiden @bethyb1886

OTalk_Occhat
RT @Dai2584: Listern to interesting programme on R4 where they were debating whether a therapist could cry in front of a patient. #otalk

Maria_Markland
@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 We’ve been told as students that you should never cry in front of clients, interesting that it is debatable #OTalk

BillWongOT
@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden @bethyb1886 well… I am a service user who also is an occupational therapist. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Maria_Markland: Hi everyone! I’ve missed a few #OTalk s but the essays are in and I’m glad to be back! 🙂

OTalk_Occhat
@MrDarrenGormley is hosting tonights chat. Do you have any initial thoughts questions? #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Dai2584: Listern to interesting programme on R4 where they were debating whether a therapist could cry in front of a patient. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @GillyGorry: Tonight’s #otalk is guest hoisted by @MrDarrenGormley and we will be discussing professional boundaries. Who’s online???

CarmenNQ_OT
@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 Agreed – Its sometimes good to show we are humans and we do care. Where appropriate. #reality #OTalk

Trio33
Accidentally tweeted from wrong account just now! Good evening from the real me (rather than my book!) #OTalk

nursemaiden
RT @MrDarrenGormley: Would be great to hear the thoughts of family #carers on tonight’s #OTalk topic ‘professional boundaries’ > @nursemaid

OTalk_Occhat
RT @MrDarrenGormley: Would be great to hear the thoughts of family #carers on tonight’s #OTalk topic ‘professional boundaries’ > @nursemaid

Dai2584
@Helen_otuk #otalk i thought that. it all depends. we only human but the quests on the show were gerenrally very negative about it

MrDarrenGormley
RT @BillWongOT@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden @bethyb1886 well… I am a service user who also is an occupational therapist. #otalk

suzancollins
RT @GillyGorry: Tonight’s #otalk is guest hoisted by @MrDarrenGormley and we will be discussing professional boundaries. Who’s online???

suzancollins
RT @Dai2584: Listern to interesting programme on R4 where they were debating whether a therapist could cry in front of a patient. #otalk

McnabbTeddy
RT @MrDarrenGormley: Would be great to hear the thoughts of family #carers on tonight’s #OTalk topic ‘professional boundaries’ > @nursemaid

MrDarrenGormley
RT @OTalk_Occhat@MrDarrenGormley is hosting tonights chat. Do you have any initial thoughts questions? #otalk

suzancollins
RT @BillWongOT@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden @bethyb1886 well… I am a service user who also is an occupational therapist. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Dai2584@Helen_otuk #otalk i thought that. it all depends. we only human but the quests on the show were gerenrally very negative abou…

CarmenNQ_OT
@Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 Which Uni told you never to cry? Sometimes its needed for your own personal well being #OTalk

nursemaiden
@BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley @bethyb1886 #otalk Hi Darren haven’t long got from work so may lurk more!

OTalk_Occhat
@GillyGorry on the @OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Let me know if you need any help.#otalk remember to follow your code of ethics

OTalk_Occhat
RT @CarmenNQ_OT@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 Agreed – Its sometimes good to show we are humans and we do care. Where appropriate. #reality #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @Dai2584@Helen_otuk #otalk i thought that. it all depends. we only human but the quests on the show were gerenrally very negative abou…

francescaabrown
RT @MrDarrenGormley: For those joining #OTalk tonight from 8pm a brief background on your guest host http://t.co/FL0QEN87Ek #dementia

colinpgjones
Evening all my first chat sorry for any errors in advance #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
Hey better late than ever 😉 #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 are we talking about tears of sadness or tears of joy? Does that make a difference? #OTalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 this is interesting. For me, I should never cry for a diff. reason that is culturally related. #otalk

Maria_Markland
@CarmenNQ_OT @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 Err don’t really want to go into naming names, but we watched a video of a professional who cried #OTalk

Helen_otuk
@Dai2584 I am sure if it was for no particular reason or inappropriate, but I can think of some situations where it would be ok? #Otalk

sarahahpmh
@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden @bethyb1886 hi there, I might qualify for both:- OT and carer for my Dad with dementia #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@CarmenNQ_OT @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 #OTalk …when a client had acheived their goal and they ended up comforting the professional!

Symbolic_Life
May I asked the posed question for discussion? #otalk

DebLants
@Dai2584 @Helen_otuk I think you can cry in front of patients if it’s something extremely upsetting, as long as you try to control it #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @sarahahpmh@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden @bethyb1886 hi there, I might qualify for both:- OT and carer for my Dad with dementia #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 it is a grey area. Each professional has to assess the situation and act accordingly i guess #OTalk

BillWongOT
@DebLants @Dai2584 @Helen_otuk IMO, I think the only time acceptable is an emotional goodbye. #otalk

gele_tea
First chat – just found. Glad @BillWongOT raised point. It’s relative. Raises lots questions #Otalk @Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584:

Symbolic_Life
I think utilising TUOS is important although crying in front of clients? Mmm. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Symbolic_Life we are discussing the open topic of ‘professional boundaries’ #OTalk

Dai2584
@MrDarrenGormley @Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk #otalk never cried in front of a pt for joy or sadness but I dont think it a bad thing

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley No question in particular? Just open? #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @BillWongOT@DebLants @Dai2584 @Helen_otuk IMO, I think the only time acceptable is an emotional goodbye. #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
@Symbolic_Life we are exploring professional boundaries #otalk do you have any experiences you would like to share?

CarmenNQ_OT
@Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 When relating to the therapy is showing emotion that bad? Not linked to personal circumstances. #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@CarmenNQ_OT #OTalk Glad it’s a grey area. I think there’s an extent to which it can still be seen as professional. After-reaction important

Symbolic_Life
What do people determine professional boundaries as? Or did I miss that? #OTalk

DebLants
@Maria_Markland @CarmenNQ_OT @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 #OTalk that was unprofessional crying!

MrDarrenGormley
Interesting that we start the discussion on professional boundaries with crying #OTalk

gele_tea
@CarmenNQ_OT @Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk @Dai2584: also think culture/diversity #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Dai2584@MrDarrenGormley @Maria_Markland @Helen_otuk #otalk never cried in front of a pt for joy or sadness but I dont think it a bad …

bethyb1886
@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk Evening! Personally I was happy that professionals who cared for my dad became friends with him & us

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @CarmenNQ_OT agreed. I will ask supervisor for a break if I were emotionally overwhelmed. #otalk

bethyb1886
@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk They shared our joys and sadness and showed their emotions. For me this is real human interaction

gele_tea
Hope it’s fine to join your chat #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 maybe depend on the situation. we are human. is it realistic to say we can’t show emotion? #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@OTalk_Occhat I don’t know if I’ve had any with clients. But the team members worked with yes. #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Symbolic_Life have you ever encountered an experience that has challenged your notion of ‘personal’ and ‘professional’ boundaries? #OTalk

bethyb1886
@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk Professionals shouldn’t feel they have to be dehumanised robots. Care and compassion involves emotion

Sasa_Radic
Goodevening all, I think that sometimes we hide behind prof.boundries we have inhereted #otalk

julieline58
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk They shared our joys and sadness and showed their emotions. For me this is real human …

Maria_Markland
@MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk Interesting point. I think tears of joy may seen as more acceptable? But does emotion enhance empathy? #OTalk

Helen_otuk
@gele_tea all welcome. Please do join in… #OTalk

simonaflorio1
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk Professionals shouldn’t feel they have to be dehumanised robots. Care and compassion i…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk They shared our joys and sadness and showed their emotions. For me this is real human …

GillyGorry
I wonder how would showing no emotion be perceived? Less or more professional? #otalk

DebLants
@BillWongOT @Dai2584 @Helen_otuk #OTalk I cried once when I was very sad to leave a client I had been working with for a year and a half!

MrDarrenGormley
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk Evening! Personally I was happy that professionals who cared for my dad became friends…

CarmenNQ_OT
@BillWongOT @Maria_Markland There are many things that can produce an emotional effect – some areas of work can be very upsetting. #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @Symbolic_Life@OTalk_Occhat I don’t know if I’ve had any with clients. But the team members worked with yes. #OTalk

Maria_Markland
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk They shared our joys and sadness and showed their emotions. For me this is real human …

Dai2584
@MrDarrenGormley #otalk. I do find professionalism and emotion difficult to be honest. Ive had to reflect on it a few times

BillWongOT
@OTalk_Occhat @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 in some situations, I don’t think we can. We might escalate the client’s behavior. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Sasa_Radic: Goodevening all, I think that sometimes we hide behind prof.boundries we have inhereted #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
@Symbolic_Life can you elaborate more? #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat @Helen_otuk @Dai2584 in some situations, I don’t think we can. We might escalate the client’s behavior. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley Not as such with clients. But team members yes. As a student team members are rather relaxed with you at times. #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Sasa_Radic interesting point > that we ‘hide’ behind boundaries. What might we be hiding from? #OTalk

gele_tea
@bethyb1886 @MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden: am literal person so using word “boundary” with caution referring to professionalism #otalk

DebLants
#OTalk It is being considered to teach compassion to healthcare workers! Is it because we are expected not to have emotion toward patients

CarmenNQ_OT
@MrDarrenGormley @Sasa_Radic Possibly just fitting in to a big organisation within which we are one of many. #OTalk

GillyGorry
@Dai2584 @mrdarrengormley I have found myself containing emotion 4 fear of looking unprofessional But has depended on the situation #otalk

Helen_otuk
@Dai2584 @MrDarrenGormley a tricky area but emotional responses show the human side of therapist. Appropriateness is the key. #Otalk

Maria_Markland
@GillyGorry #OTalk Interesting! Depends on situation. There may be more expectation of no dispayed emption connected to ‘professionalism’

julieline58
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk Professionals shouldn’t feel they have to be dehumanised robots. Care and compassion i…

CarmenNQ_OT
@GillyGorry @Dai2584 @MrDarrenGormley So long as there is an outlet somewhere – consider personal mental health + well being #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Dai2584 What comes to mind when we talk of ‘professionalism’ #OTalk

gele_tea
@DebLants: compassion is key. Hopefully history (past/present) shows many influential health workers/professionals with compassion. #OTalk

BillWongOT
@DebLants I don’t think so. I think it’s setting dependent. Sometimes remaining poised is the best thing to do. #otalk

DebLants
@CarmenNQ_OT @GillyGorry @Dai2584 @MrDarrenGormley #otalk Debrief sessions are good for this!

MrDarrenGormley
RT @CarmenNQ_OT@MrDarrenGormley @Sasa_Radic Possibly just fitting in to a big organisation within which we are one of many. #OTalk

SarahMassey92
#otalk I don’t think it’s unprofessional to cry but should be controlled and be sure to reflect and utilise supervision afterwards

BillWongOT
@MrDarrenGormley @Dai2584 My new occupational therapist has set some firmer boundaries than my last one. #otalk 1/2

OTalk_Occhat
RT @sarahahpmh@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden @bethyb1886 hi there, I might qualify for both:- OT and carer for my Dad with dementia #OTalk

gele_tea
@DebLants: in year NHS celebrates its 65th birthday hope teaching compassion and attempting to know person/patient is on agendas! #otalk

BillWongOT
@MrDarrenGormley @Dai2584 so some of the things that were OK with the previous OT were much stricter with this new OT. #otalk 2/2

DebLants
@BillWongOT #otalk Compassion is likely to be taught to new nursing students now in the UK… I agree though, I always try to remain poised

Dai2584
@MrDarrenGormley #otalk alway had issues with that term. whether what im doing i.e. assess etc, is for my patient or for my self

MrDarrenGormley
@GillyGorry @Dai2584 fascinating point. We as CARE professionals associate showing emotions as being unprofessional #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @DebLants@BillWongOT #otalk Compassion is likely to be taught to new nursing students now in the UK… I agree though, I always try to…

Trio33
I feel it’s important to be authentic as well as appropriate #OTalk

colinpgjones
If as OTs we want real, open&honest working relationships with our client surely we need to balance .,…#OTalk

colinpgjones
our responce to situation with professional wisdom #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@MrDarrenGormley @Sasa_Radic Hiding from our instincts in contrast to our expectations of the meaning of professionalism #OTalk

BillWongOT
@DebLants yes… in my fav. setting, pediatrics, it’s not good to be rattled when kids have meltdowns/tantrums. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
Can emotions impact your judgement? #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @BillWongOT@MrDarrenGormley @Dai2584 My new occupational therapist has set some firmer boundaries than my last one. #otalk 1/2

gele_tea
@MrDarrenGormley @GillyGorry @Dai2584: ingrained in culture but things are beginning to change slowly #Otalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @SarahMassey92#otalk I don’t think it’s unprofessional to cry but should be controlled and be sure to reflect and utilise supervision …

DebLants
@MrDarrenGormley @GillyGorry @Dai2584 #otalk good point!

OTalk_Occhat
RT @MrDarrenGormley@Dai2584 What comes to mind when we talk of ‘professionalism’ #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @SarahMassey92#otalk I don’t think it’s unprofessional to cry but should be controlled and be sure to reflect and utilise supervision …

Symbolic_Life
Does therapeutic use of self impose our thoughts of what’s needed on to the clients narrative? #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @BillWongOT@MrDarrenGormley @Dai2584 My new occupational therapist has set some firmer boundaries than my last one. #otalk 1/2

gele_tea
@MrDarrenGormley @GillyGorry @Dai2584: but there is an argument for keeping a stiff upper lip (excuse phrase) some times #Otalk

DebLants
@BillWongOT #otalk Good point. That would just exacerbate the situation I suppose

CarmenNQ_OT
@Symbolic_Life thats where the professionalism comes in – maintaining that rational decision making ability #OTalk

Helen_otuk
@Symbolic_Life I am sure they do, but have to acknowledge this and have strategies to support sound judgement. #OTalk

Trio33
My idea of professionalism encompasses a lot of different aspects #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@MrDarrenGormley #OTalk Yes! Aren’t we focused on benefit to the client though? If showing emotion makes them less secure is it caring?

Dai2584
@gele_tea #otalk a bit of self control is always good.

DebLants
#otalk What is the best thing to do when you feel someone else is being unprofessional?

MrDarrenGormley
Can compassion be taught? Or must it be nurtured? #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Dai2584@MrDarrenGormley #otalk alway had issues with that term. whether what im doing i.e. assess etc, is for my patient or for my s…

GillyGorry
@MrDarrenGormley @dai2584 I think people find it difficult to switch between uncontrolled emotion and professional compassion #otalk

gele_tea
It’s about culture of change & healthcare profession is easily one of the last 2 practice this when comes to emotions. Will b balance #Otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Symbolic_Life: Can emotions impact your judgement? #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @gele_tea@MrDarrenGormley @GillyGorry @Dai2584: ingrained in culture but things are beginning to change slowly #Otalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@DebLants reflection is key – what we feel at the time may be impacted by our own emotions #OTalk

gele_tea
@Dai2584: agreed. Hope didn’t give any other impression. There are times when much needed. #Otalk

BillWongOT
@MrDarrenGormley I think both. Empathy is important, particularly with some clients who need mental health related supports. #otalk

DebLants
@MrDarrenGormley #otalk I don’t feel it can be taught but can be expanded…

sarahahpmh
@tommyNtour hi Tommy – can you join in? #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT I agree. Just wondering Do you use any tools to support this? #otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @MrDarrenGormley I think placement experiences will help you in gaining general ideas on what to do. #otalk

Sasa_Radic
#otalk Yes, we do take the things we were thought, you don’t cry with the client, you don’t become friendly etc.

Symbolic_Life
@Helen_otuk out of interest what judgement do you use? #otalk

DebLants
@CarmenNQ_OT #otalk Good point, but we don’t want to ignore things too much. I suppose there is a balance, just hard to spot sometimes

Symbolic_Life
@Helen_otuk sorry strategies..#sunbrain #OTalk

colinpgjones
@BillWongOT I would also identify that children are also great readers of people, and respond well to authentic responces #OTalk

GillyGorry
I was always told, you never cry in front of others.. I think this is common. Cultural norm impacting health professions #otalk

Sasa_Radic
RT @Trio33: I feel it’s important to be authentic as well as appropriate #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@Symbolic_Life utilizing the beauty of working within a team, seek support and discuss difficult decisions/experiences #OTalk

Helen_otuk
As professionalism has many other aspects emotion is only part of the whole picture, so therefore should be in relation to the whole #Otalk

banksger1
RT @sarahahpmh@tommyNtour hi Tommy – can you join in? #OTalk

tommyNtour
@sarahahpmh hi Sarah yes, thank you #OTalk

colinpgjones
@BillWongOT I do also recognise that it is dependant on the circumstances, where you clinical judgement is needed #OTalk

Sasa_Radic
RT @colinpgjones: If as OTs we want real, open&honest working relationships with our client surely we need to balance .,…#OTalk

walter_matthews
RT @bethyb1886@MrDarrenGormley @nursemaiden #OTalk Professionals shouldn’t feel they have to be dehumanised robots. Care and compassion i…

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley might not taught but experienced? And passed on? #OTalk

BillWongOT
@GillyGorry @MrDarrenGormley @Dai2584 I would say I am on that list! #otalk

gele_tea
@BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley: Empathy is crucial esp. re: mental health – completed supplements 4 mental health organisation on this #Otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @DebLants@MrDarrenGormley #otalk I don’t feel it can be taught but can be expanded…

BillWongOT
@colinpgjones yes… this is true… and experiences can help! #otalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@DebLants Agreed, its deciding where that fine line is + if its crossed. Important to have a open, trusting team – nurture discussion #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Symbolic_Life@MrDarrenGormley might not taught but experienced? And passed on? #OTalk

Trio33
Could expressing SOME emotion be helpful in some circumstances, liked limited self disclosure? #OTalk

gele_tea
Agree that compassion can be taught but think difficult. @BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley #personalities #upbringing #understanding #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT supervision allows you to maintain your level head? Do you think we can miss the client narrative from our perceptions? #OTalk

Helen_otuk
@Symbolic_Life that is very variable, depends on the situation and can be wide ranging. #OTalk

BillWongOT
@colinpgjones true… that’s why in some situations where being firm is key! #otalk

gele_tea
Re: compassion. Would involve lots of exercises/examples…think of some of the people you know! Not impossible though. #Otalk

Maria_Markland
@gele_tea @BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley Most striking thing I’ve learnt recently is the value that clients place on being understood #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Maria_Markland@MrDarrenGormley #OTalk Yes! Aren’t we focused on benefit to the client though? If showing emotion makes them less secu…

colinpgjones
@Trio33 really interesting and valid point #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@Helen_otuk sorry I meant at strategies.. My sunbrain #otalk

GillyGorry
@KerstinGadsden yes.. But I do find some people want sympathy….#otalk..

OTalk_Occhat
RT @gele_tea: Re: compassion. Would involve lots of exercises/examples…think of some of the people you know! Not impossible though. #Otalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@Symbolic_Life its important to take time to look at it from different perspectives – no acting on impulse #OTalk

Sasa_Radic
@Helen_otuk i agree, balans gives us the whole picture #otalk

AlresfordBear
@Maria_Markland @MrDarrenGormley It certainly helps them challenge the uncertainties relating to expression of emotion #otalk

sarahahpmh
@GillyGorry we have all sort of cultural beliefs that get in the way sometimes #OTalk

gele_tea
@Maria_Markland: wld add being listened to as well. Know its given but clients find it comforting #Otalk @BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley

Maria_Markland
@BillWongOT @colinpgjones Do you think you use a different mask of professionalism with children? #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT I wonder do you have any resources you’ve read out of interest? #otalk

Helen_otuk
@Symbolic_Life oh i see.. be aware of emotional state, know how your emotions influence you, make decisions at the right time, review #OTalk

gele_tea
@Maria_Markland @BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley: listening & being understood is the start of the building THAT key relationship #bond #Otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @colinpgjones good question- I would say in a sense… since making sessions fun is important. #otalk

GillyGorry
Respect for client choice is an important boundary. We must avoid “we know best” #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
How do you make the distinction between ‘personal’ and ‘professional’ #OTalk

gele_tea
@Maria_Markland @BillWongOT @MrDarrenGormley: can lead to the friendships etc mentioned by @bethyb1886 #otalk #professional #service #care

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Maria_Markland@BillWongOT @colinpgjones Do you think you use a different mask of professionalism with children? #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @sarahahpmh@GillyGorry we have all sort of cultural beliefs that get in the way sometimes #OTalk

Dai2584
Do ppl worry about thier jobs with professionalism. i.e. Ive got to be seen doing and saying the “right” things? #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @GillyGorry: Respect for client choice is an important boundary. We must avoid “we know best” #otalk

AlresfordBear
@MrDarrenGormley #OTalk Emotional labour and the “feeling rules” 🙂 #otalk

gele_tea
RT @sarahahpmh@GillyGorry we have all sort of cultural beliefs that get in the way sometimes #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@Symbolic_Life Not as of yet but will keep my eyes open and ask around – get back to you if i find something useful 🙂 #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
RT @GillyGorry: Respect for client choice is an important boundary. We must avoid “we know best” #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Dai2584: Do ppl worry about thier jobs with professionalism. i.e. Ive got to be seen doing and saying the “right” things? #otalk

BillWongOT
@MrDarrenGormley can be blurry in my situation- as I am both an OT and a service user. #otalk

gele_tea
@sarahahpmh @MrDarrenGormley @GillyGorry: indeed. Hence points earlier that centre around #discretion can make job difficult at times #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Dai2584 like an actor performing care? http://t.co/XKb2W8aNCE #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @BillWongOT@MrDarrenGormley can be blurry in my situation- as I am both an OT and a service user. #otalk

Helen_otuk
Is collaboration the key? RT @GillyGorry: Respect for client choice is an important boundary. We must avoid “we know best” #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@Helen_otuk just out of interest do you know if you’ve read any literature on this? #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @AlresfordBear@MrDarrenGormley #OTalk Emotional labour and the “feeling rules” 🙂 #otalk

BillWongOT
@MrDarrenGormley there are things that an OT may do for me as a friend, but may have some restrictions if I were his/her client. #otalk

gele_tea
@sarahahpmh @MrDarrenGormley @GillyGorry: but when dig deep enough can take lots of action and learning points from it too #Otalk

Symbolic_Life
RT @MrDarrenGormley: How do you make the distinction between ‘personal’ and ‘professional’ #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@gele_tea @MrDarrenGormley #Otalk There appears a genuine un-mask like feature of true listening and empathy still linked to professional

sarahahpmh
And of course my tweets justify my own OT practice were my eye have gone glassy quite a lot #OTalk

colinpgjones
I would suggest that any client whether a child or adult if the approach is tailored and client focused a responce starts there #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Maria_Markland@gele_tea @MrDarrenGormley #Otalk There appears a genuine un-mask like feature of true listening and empathy still link…

gele_tea
@Helen_otuk @GillyGorry: it’s remembering 2 avoid one size fits all approach & to be open 2 learning. Never know what you’ll pick up #Otalk

Sasa_Radic
RT @Maria_Markland@gele_tea @MrDarrenGormley #Otalk There appears a genuine un-mask like feature of true listening and empathy still link…

Helen_otuk
@Symbolic_Life I am sure I have, but they are just the first things that came to mind this evening. #Otalk

Maria_Markland
@Dai2584 As a student about to go on placement I worry! But that’s probably a different scale in practice #OTalk

gele_tea
RT @Maria_Markland@gele_tea @MrDarrenGormley #Otalk There appears a genuine un-mask like feature of true listening and empathy still link…

OTalk_Occhat
@Symbolic_Life @Helen_otuk mindful and reflective practice #otalk

colinpgjones
@GillyGorry a very valid point #OTalk

colinpgjones
@GillyGorry a very valid point #OTalk

Dai2584
@MrDarrenGormley #otalk I do think we have lines we need to learn in to fit in. U have to be the 1st person to say “holistic’ in any meeting

OTalk_Occhat
RT @MrDarrenGormley@Dai2584 like an actor performing care? http://t.co/XKb2W8aNCE #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @MrDarrenGormley@Dai2584 like an actor performing care? http://t.co/XKb2W8aNCE #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT thank you :). have you any experiences of this? #learning #student #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT thank you :). have you any experiences of this? #learning #student #otalk

gele_tea
Sometimes, wouldn’t you just love to change meaning or re-invent new words to avoid some of the emotive words so often loaded? #OTalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @Dai2584 and speaking of which… you also got to be aware about social media, too. #otalk

DebLants
@Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life #otalk You’re emotions may not always be a proportionate response!

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Dai2584@MrDarrenGormley #otalk I do think we have lines we need to learn in to fit in. U have to be the 1st person to say “holistic’ …

OTalk_Occhat
@MrDarrenGormley interesting question.. #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
@MrDarrenGormley interesting question.. #otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @Dai2584 in some settings, it may not be OK to friend clients on FB or follow them on Twitter, for ex. #otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @Dai2584 in some settings, it may not be OK to friend clients on FB or follow them on Twitter, for ex. #otalk

Trio33
RT @OTalk_Occhat@Symbolic_Life @Helen_otuk mindful and reflective practice #otalk

Trio33
RT @OTalk_Occhat@Symbolic_Life @Helen_otuk mindful and reflective practice #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @DebLants@Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life #otalk You’re emotions may not always be a proportionate response!

MrDarrenGormley
RT @OTalk_Occhat@MrDarrenGormley interesting question.. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @OTalk_Occhat@MrDarrenGormley interesting question.. #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
Thought provoking discussion on tonights #otalk we are reaching the final 10 mins.

OTalk_Occhat
Thought provoking discussion on tonights #otalk we are reaching the final 10 mins.

CarmenNQ_OT
@Symbolic_Life Only through having supportive teams during placements. Graduate on Monday 😛 #learningtoo #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
@DebLants @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life or your response may not be proportionate to your emotions? #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @OTalk_Occhat: Thought provoking discussion on tonights #otalk we are reaching the final 10 mins.

MrDarrenGormley
RT @OTalk_Occhat: Thought provoking discussion on tonights #otalk we are reaching the final 10 mins.

AlresfordBear
@DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life Are emotions a response or are they a social construction in society #OTalk

AlresfordBear
@DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life Are emotions a response or are they a social construction in society #OTalk

Helen_otuk
You put it so succinctly. Thank you RT @OTalk_Occhat@Symbolic_Life @Helen_otuk mindful and reflective practice #otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @Dai2584 one of my ex-OT’s followed me on LinkedIn. #otalk

Helen_otuk
You put it so succinctly. Thank you RT @OTalk_Occhat@Symbolic_Life @Helen_otuk mindful and reflective practice #otalk

sarahahpmh
@MrDarrenGormley @Symbolic_Life being the same person – work life and home life- #otalk

sarahahpmh
@MrDarrenGormley @Symbolic_Life being the same person – work life and home life- #otalk

DebLants
@BillWongOT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 #otalk I feel that it is never ok to be linked to a client on social media…

DebLants
@BillWongOT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 #otalk I feel that it is never ok to be linked to a client on social media…

gele_tea
@Helen_otuk @GillyGorry: Re: “we know best” scenario – it’a also about reserving judgement. May turn out that do know best. #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @CarmenNQ_OT@Symbolic_Life Only through having supportive teams during placements. Graduate on Monday 😛 #learningtoo #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @CarmenNQ_OT@Symbolic_Life Only through having supportive teams during placements. Graduate on Monday 😛 #learningtoo #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @DebLants@Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life #otalk You’re emotions may not always be a proportionate response!

Maria_Markland
RT @MrDarrenGormley@DebLants @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life or your response may not be proportionate to your emotions? #OTalk

Maria_Markland
RT @MrDarrenGormley@DebLants @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life or your response may not be proportionate to your emotions? #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@BillWongOT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 Is that ever OK if you know them purely through a client:therapist encounter? #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@BillWongOT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 Is that ever OK if you know them purely through a client:therapist encounter? #OTalk

colinpgjones
@MrDarrenGormley I would suggest they interact dependant on the weight of focus we choose to place on them #OTalk

colinpgjones
@MrDarrenGormley I would suggest they interact dependant on the weight of focus we choose to place on them #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @DebLants@BillWongOT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 #otalk I feel that it is never ok to be linked to a client on social media…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @colinpgjones@MrDarrenGormley I would suggest they interact dependant on the weight of focus we choose to place on them #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @colinpgjones@MrDarrenGormley I would suggest they interact dependant on the weight of focus we choose to place on them #OTalk

BillWongOT
@CarmenNQ_OT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 if it’s purely client-therapist encounter, definitely not. #otalk 1/2

BillWongOT
@CarmenNQ_OT @Maria_Markland @Dai2584 but if it’s by chance that you are a client’s OT after you know them in community, diff. story. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@Helen_otuk thank you 🙂 #learning #otalk

gele_tea
@Dai2584: that’s a really interesting question. It includes boundaries and think confidence and assessing situation comes into play #OTalk

DebLants
@AlresfordBear @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life #otalk Philosophical now! in a way it doesn’t really matter how they are provoked

sarahahpmh
Might have just landed in twitter jail #OTalk bye if so.

BillWongOT
I say what I said because I am actually connected w/ my current OT through Linkedin, too. The connection still stands. #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
@colinpgjones very true Colin. More generally how much weight do we place on reason compared to emotion? Is the balance right #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
@colinpgjones very true Colin. More generally how much weight do we place on reason compared to emotion? Is the balance right #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT Ooo your V insightful :). Congrats on graduating :))) #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT Ooo your V insightful :). Congrats on graduating :))) #otalk

gele_tea
@Dai2584: not suggesting anything radical here! Thinking of and making parallels with children/families/child protection now. #OTalk

BillWongOT
IMO, I think Linkedin is the “gray area” in terms of getting connected with clients, goes. FB & Twitter are definite no-no’s. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley @DebLants @Helen_otuk so how do we manage this? Reflective practice? Over time? #otalk

Maria_Markland
@colinpgjones @MrDarrenGormley So personal awareness of emotional triggers is beneficial to judge our focus on them and our reaction #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@colinpgjones @MrDarrenGormley So personal awareness of emotional triggers is beneficial to judge our focus on them and our reaction #OTalk

colinpgjones
@MrDarrenGormley fully agree #OTalk

colinpgjones
@MrDarrenGormley fully agree #OTalk

AlresfordBear
@DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life It does, but because we assume they are a fixed object #OTalk

AlresfordBear
@DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk @Symbolic_Life It does, but because we assume they are a fixed object #OTalk

CarmenNQ_OT
@Symbolic_Life Cheers 🙂 Thats what i love about Twitter – sharing knowledge, ideas and experiences #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@AlresfordBear @DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk Boom! My exact thoughts! I agree the social constructionist in me is crying out #otalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Symbolic_Life @DebLants @Helen_otuk absolutely. Reflective practice and supervision key to ensuring healthy balance #OTalk

gele_tea
Doesn’t social media throw up some red flags with this? Don’t expect answer, just “questionning” out loud. #OTalk

AlresfordBear
@Symbolic_Life @DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk They are constructed by gender, status, role……..list goes on #OTalk

AlresfordBear
@Symbolic_Life @DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk They are constructed by gender, status, role……..list goes on #OTalk

gele_tea
#Otalk, have enjoyed your discussion and will join again if passing through.

Trio33
@MrDarrenGormley “…how much weight do we place on reason compared to emotion? Is the balance right?” Good point – balance needed #OTalk

Trio33
@MrDarrenGormley “…how much weight do we place on reason compared to emotion? Is the balance right?” Good point – balance needed #OTalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @colinpgjones @MrDarrenGormley yes! I have been aware of my triggers, so that I can reduce epi. of unprofessionalism. #otalk

Dai2584
@sarahahpmh #otalk is there a twiter jail lol 🙂

Symbolic_Life
@colinpgjones @MrDarrenGormley I concur… Smart 🙂 #otalk

BillWongOT
@gele_tea in my case, the answer is no. OT’s connecting with one another is pretty common. #otalk

Maria_Markland
@MrDarrenGormley @colinpgjones Who decides what makes the balance ‘right’? Us? our client’s reaction? our professional body? #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @CarmenNQ_OT@Symbolic_Life Cheers 🙂 Thats what i love about Twitter – sharing knowledge, ideas and experiences #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@DebLants @AlresfordBear @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk it matters to how they are managed… Therapeutic quality #otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @MrDarrenGormley @colinpgjones I think it’s the “unwritten rules” in our setting. #otalk

colinpgjones
@Maria_Markland all three and dont forget hcpc #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
@Maria_Markland @MrDarrenGormley @colinpgjones I think this is down to us as reflective practitioners to aim for the balance #otalk

DebLants
@Symbolic_Life @AlresfordBear @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk #otalk Agreed!

DebLants
@Symbolic_Life @AlresfordBear @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk #otalk Agreed!

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley @colinpgjones how do we determine this balance? #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley @colinpgjones how do we determine this balance? #otalk

Helen_otuk
A combination? RT @Maria_Markland: Who decides what makes the balance ‘right’? Us? our client’s reaction? our professional body? #OTalk

Dai2584
@gele_tea #otalk I often reflect if Im doing my job well for me and my life or for the benefit of my patients

BillWongOT
@gele_tea I do say, though, Facebook and Twitter can be a red flag. But Linkedin is probably OK. #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
@gele_tea in what way? we are expected to adhere to codes of ethics and be professional at all times… social media included #otalk

Maria_Markland
@colinpgjones #OTalk Yes, I wish there were more characters allowed in these tweets ha ha! Interesting that all 4 may not agree though

Symbolic_Life
@CarmenNQ_OT I agree! I heart #otalk this is really helping my Dissi thought process.

Trio33
@Maria_Markland Who decides what makes the balance ‘right’?” our professional judgement I’d say #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
@gele_tea thanks for joining us #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@MrDarrenGormley @DebLants @Helen_otuk can you share some B practices you’ve used? #otalk

DebLants
#otalk I’m off now! Thanks everyone. I enjoy this tweeting session! 🙂

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Maria_Markland@colinpgjones #OTalk Yes, I wish there were more characters allowed in these tweets ha ha! Interesting that all 4 may n…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @colinpgjones@Maria_Markland all three and dont forget hcpc #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Trio33: “@Maria_Markland Who decides what makes the balance ‘right’?” our professional judgement I’d say #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Symbolic_Life@CarmenNQ_OT I agree! I heart #otalk this is really helping my Dissi thought process.

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Symbolic_Life@CarmenNQ_OT I agree! I heart #otalk this is really helping my Dissi thought process.

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Symbolic_Life@MrDarrenGormley @DebLants @Helen_otuk can you share some B practices you’ve used? #otalk

Maria_Markland
@OTalk_Occhat #OTalk A bit like clinical reasoning and judgement of the situation then. All 3 inform and as a professional we use judgement.

Maria_Markland
@OTalk_Occhat #OTalk A bit like clinical reasoning and judgement of the situation then. All 3 inform and as a professional we use judgement.

MrDarrenGormley
RT @DebLants#otalk I’m off now! Thanks everyone. I enjoy this tweeting session! 🙂

colinpgjones
@Symbolic_Life is ent that where the wisdom, experience, professional guidance from codes of conduct, ot skills etc all come together #OTalk

colinpgjones
@Symbolic_Life is ent that where the wisdom, experience, professional guidance from codes of conduct, ot skills etc all come together #OTalk

OTalk_Occhat
We are coming to the end of a great #otalk many thanks for joining us and Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for being a great host.

OTalk_Occhat
We are coming to the end of a great #otalk many thanks for joining us and Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for being a great host.

Trio33
Night @DebLants #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
RT @Maria_Markland@OTalk_Occhat #OTalk A bit like clinical reasoning and judgement of the situation then. All 3 inform and as a professio…

Sasa_Radic
@Maria_Markland I think we need to know balance in accordance with our knowledge, experiance and professional guideline (such as CoE) #OTalk

BillWongOT
RT @Trio33: “@Maria_Markland Who decides what makes the balance ‘right’?” our professional judgement I’d say #OTalk

Maria_Markland
RT @Trio33: “@Maria_Markland Who decides what makes the balance ‘right’?” our professional judgement I’d say #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@AlresfordBear @DebLants @MrDarrenGormley @Helen_otuk lifetime development learnt experience. Could be difference.. I ? Gender #otalk

BillWongOT
@kerrypuddled @Dai2584 From my “hybrid” perspective, I would say I will respect whatever boundaries my therapists have. #otalk

BillWongOT
@kerrypuddled @Dai2584 From my “hybrid” perspective, I would say I will respect whatever boundaries my therapists have. #otalk

Helen_otuk
Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for a supper topic for #OTalk and for @gilliangorry for being such a good guide this evening. Thanks!

gele_tea
RT @BillWongOT@gele_tea I do say, though, Facebook and Twitter can be a red flag. But Linkedin is probably OK. #otalk

colinpgjones
Thanks all really thought prevoking enjoyed that a lot;) #OTalk

colinpgjones
Thanks all really thought prevoking enjoyed that a lot;) #OTalk

gele_tea
RT @Dai2584@gele_tea #otalk I often reflect if Im doing my job well for me and my life or for the benefit of my patients

gele_tea
RT @Dai2584@gele_tea #otalk I often reflect if Im doing my job well for me and my life or for the benefit of my patients

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Maria_Markland@OTalk_Occhat #OTalk A bit like clinical reasoning and judgement of the situation then. All 3 inform and as a professio…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @OTalk_Occhat: We are coming to the end of a great #otalk many thanks for joining us and Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for being a great ho…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Trio33: Night @DebLants #otalk

Sasa_Radic
RT @Helen_otuk: Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for a supper topic for #OTalk and for @gilliangorry for being such a good guide this evening. Th…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Helen_otuk: Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for a supper topic for #OTalk and for @gilliangorry for being such a good guide this evening. Th…

MrDarrenGormley
RT @colinpgjones: Thanks all really thought prevoking enjoyed that a lot;) #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @colinpgjones: Thanks all really thought prevoking enjoyed that a lot;) #OTalk

Trio33
Thanks @MrDarrenGormley for hosting. It’s been a good #otalk tonight. Good night all and enjoy the rest of the evening.

Helen_otuk
Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for a super topic for #OTalk and for @gilliangorry for being such a good guide this evening. Thanks!

GillyGorry
@gele_tea @helen_otuk yes, but then need to avoid “I told you so” …#otalk

BillWongOT
I also thought of this, if u r subbing for a colleague and you are providing tx’s to his/her client, I think SM connections are OK. #otalk

gele_tea
@OTalk_Occhat: thank you for being so welcoming. #Otalk

gele_tea
@OTalk_Occhat: thank you for being so welcoming. #Otalk

MrDarrenGormley
A big thank you #OTalk for having me as a guest host tonight. A lively and thought-provoking chat > its been a real pleasure 🙂 @GillyGorry

MrDarrenGormley
A big thank you #OTalk for having me as a guest host tonight. A lively and thought-provoking chat > its been a real pleasure 🙂 @GillyGorry

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Trio33: Thanks @MrDarrenGormley for hosting. It’s been a good #otalk tonight. Good night all and enjoy the rest of the evening.

BillWongOT
cuz I don’t think it makes sense to unfriend/unfollow someone u know if u are just taking over a tx or two w/ some1 u already know. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
Many thanks OTs of #otalk a thought provoking chat prompting many questions for my coming study! :). Wisdom is beautiful ;).

Symbolic_Life
Many thanks OTs of #otalk a thought provoking chat prompting many questions for my coming study! :). Wisdom is beautiful ;).

gele_tea
@GillyGorry @Helen_otuk: definetely. As if…or maybe If…if constructed exceptionally cleverly. #Otalk

gele_tea
@GillyGorry @Helen_otuk: definetely. As if…or maybe If…if constructed exceptionally cleverly. #Otalk

MrDarrenGormley
@Trio33 Thank you Carol! 🙂 #OTalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Helen_otuk: Thanks to @MrDarrenGormley for a super topic for #OTalk and for @gilliangorry for being such a good guide this evening. Tha…

Dai2584
RT @Symbolic_Life: Many thanks OTs of #otalk a thought provoking chat prompting many questions for my coming study! :). Wisdom is beautifu…

GillyGorry
@MrDarrenGormley thanks Darren, you have been a great host! #otalk 🙂

MrDarrenGormley
RT @gele_tea@OTalk_Occhat: thank you for being so welcoming. #Otalk

MrDarrenGormley
RT @Symbolic_Life: Many thanks OTs of #otalk a thought provoking chat prompting many questions for my coming study! :). Wisdom is beautifu…

 Content from Twitter

OTalk, Professionalism

#OTalk on Professional Boundaries.

#OTalk on the 9th July 2013 will be exploring professional boundaries. Guest host Darren Gormley @MrDarrenGormley has written two thought provoking blogs for Tweeters to read before hand.

Uncovering the Mask of Professionalism http://darrengormley.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/uncovering-mask-of-professionalism.html

How One Picture Can Be Worth a Thousand Words http://darrengormley.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/how-one-picture-can-be-worth-thousand.html


Blog Post  –  Transcript  –  Post Chat Summary


 

Occhat

#occhat Transcript – Focus on Models – PEO/PEOP – 2nd July 2013

Thank you @Gerbil10 for facilitating last night’s #occhat on the PEO/PEOP Models – the first in our models series.

Unfortunately, GrabChat’s having some technical problems that’s limiting our ability to post full transcripts of the chats. So we’ve used the transcript captured by Symplur instead:

Helen_otuk
Good evening all ready and waiting for this evenings #Occhat

OTalk_Occhat
#occhat After finally remembering the login details.. @clissa89 here on the @OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Tweet if you get stuck 🙂

Helen_otuk
@gerbil10 Hi Rachel, looking forward to this evenings #Occhat on PEO/PEOP models! Yay.

gerbil10
@clissa89 looking forward to modelling tonight on #occhat

cskies
Ciao for Now Tweeties, gotta run. Be back in a shortly. Lol xx =) Bummer I will miss #Occhat. Enjoy!#occupationaltherapy #OTuesday

clissa89
@OTtwehytweets great idea – relaxing with a cuppa 🙂 thanks for joining us on a hectic day! #Occhat#OTuesday

clissa89
@cskies aww what a shame, hope your day goes well #Occhat #occupationaltherapy #OTuesday

GillyGorry
@clissa89 me 🙂 #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
Just a quick reminder (as always) that @The_HCPC guidelines apply online too – link if you need further info http://t.co/IVXp4foQfX #occhat

BillWongOT
I am here. #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 #Occhat/Otalk have become part of my Tuesday evenings for the past 6 weeks & I rushed home to be on time 🙂

OTalk_Occhat
@billwongot hi Bill, glad to have you here tonight 🙂 #occhat

eileenhegarty7
Good evening from a cold and windswept southwest Ireland #occhat

BillWongOT
@OTalk_Occhat yes… cherishing possibility my last few times with you guys. New job possibly awaits me.#occhat

kilner100
@OTalk_Occhat @gerbil10 listening in live on my first #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
@kilner100 glad to have you here tonight 🙂 please feel free to jump in if you have anything to add!#occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 @gerbil10 yes I have used the general concept of PEO on student placements but never really in depth #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
#occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog:http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG

CeeCeeGeeOT
#Occhat as well 🙂

OTtwehytweets
RT @OTalk_Occhat#occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog: http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG

OTalk_Occhat
#occhat @gerbil10 has also posted a couple prezis on the models: http://t.co/sUXc5toHL5 andhttp://t.co/4M0IgANUjQ

gerbil10
#occhat I think the models are simple to understand because you are considering the person, environment and occupation. The complexity is…

OTalk_Occhat
@maggie_c2 thanks for joining us tonight 🙂 glad you found the prezis useful – thought @gerbil10 did a great job with the blog post! #occhat

kilner100
@OTtwehytweets very useful to have PEO in back on mind on recent role emerging placement #occhat

gerbil10
Thank you@gerbil10 did a great job with the blog post! #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 O is self explanatory… since the occupation is to be a competent occupational therapist. #occhat

GillyGorry
@gerbil10 it is a pilot and no model in there at the mo! so starting from scratch! #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 @BillWongOT @gerbil10 forgot the #occhat sorry!!

GillyGorry
@eileenhegarty7 @gerbil10 thats good..I am the only health professional.. but I need non health profs to use whatever I put in.. #occhat

GillyGorry
RT @OTalk_Occhat#occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog: http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG

Wardmans
Dutch research told me PEO is more of a guide line instead of a model. That is how I use it. #occhat

clissa89
@DoBeDoBeDo14 what good timing for an #occhat series on models 🙂 hope you wlil find them useful & help apply to practice

Helen_otuk
@GillyGorry thinking PEO PEOP could be a good fit. Fits well in social care environments. #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@kilner100 yes I agree 🙂 but I need to research it a bit more I think to get the models full use #Occhat

GillyGorry
@Helen_otuk yes… just thinking that.. #braincogsareturning… #occhat

francescaabrown
For my placement with social services, our initial assessments were based on the PEOP model #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 @BillWongOT I have never used the PEOP model is it much different than the PEO#Occhat #noviceOT

OTalk_Occhat
@francescaabrown can you tell us a bit more about how the assessment was informed by the model? what did it look like? #occhat

GillyGorry
@OTalk_Occhat hmmm almost looks like Kawa.. cross sections and longitudinal #occhat#dontforgetaboutthehashtag

CarmenNQ_OT
@francescaabrown we also used it within A&E for a bit more structure in a busy unpredictable environment#occhat

ColourHealth
listening in … #occhat

kilner100
@OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 @clissa89 @BillWongOT from memory all come from the same place but developed by different people #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
@ColourHealth thanks for joining us tonight 🙂 feel free to join in if you feel brave enough #occhat

GillyGorry
@gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 hmmm… need to do me some peo peop research #occhat

eileenhegarty7
@OTtwehytweets @clissa89 @gerbil10 @BillWongOT Must admit that I struggle to understand the performance section of PEOP. #occhat

francescaabrown
At the centre was the person + then their occupations (self-care, productivity, leisure) + then environment (+ how this (1/2) #occhat

Helen_otuk
RT @francescaabrown: Found it (PEO) a useful tool in social services to help ensure client-centered practice #occhat

francescaabrown
Impacted on their performance. It was helpful in ensuring holistic practice too #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT hope my explanation helped. They both have features I like#occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 @gerbil10 @BillWongOT will definitely b using this #occhat 2set a new goal 2research & read links on blog just did not have time

clissa89
@gerbil10 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT yes they were helpful thanks – need to revisit as didnt have time to read properly today #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT I like PEO because I think it demonstrates the transaction between the P E and O #Occhat

Helen_otuk
@CarmenNQ_OT @francescaabrown that sounds great, would love to hear more! #Occhat

francescaabrown
*as it prompted the OT to consider every aspect of the person, + considered leisure occupations as well as self-care/productivity#occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 yes I agree When I did use it on my paeds clients it definitely demonstrated the relationship with the P. E & O #Occhat

gerbil10
#occhat second question of the night. What are the challenges for the OT in analysing the transaction between the P E O?

maggie_c2
@OTalk_Occhat in terms of 2nd blog question-challenge of resources exp opportunity to assess in different environments vs. jst clinic#occhat

CarmenNQ_OT
@clissa89 @sophiewearing i find it clear and easy to work with throughout my degree. ensure holistic care + good for presentations #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 must make more time to read references just did not have time to go through before 2nights #Occhat

clissa89
@maggie_c2 I can relate – due to time pressures/rural location etc I only really see people on the ward – not their environment #occhat

GillyGorry
@clissa89 @BoothRach um.. what is #otchat lol #occhat

vivienhampleXM1
RT @OTalk_Occhat#occhat After finally remembering the login details.. @clissa89 here on the@OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Tweet if you g…

sophiewearing
@clissa89 A problem we found, is that we wanted definitive outcome measurability (economic climate)-which COPM&others can provide #Occhat

BillWongOT
@OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 @clissa89 One thing that would be helpful- try to analyze people around you.#occhat

clissa89
@sophiewearing would you mind tweeting again with the #occhat hashtag so everyone can see your tweet?

eileenhegarty7
@gerbil10 Can be a challenge to choose long-term option when resources are tight 2/2 #occhat

sophiewearing
@CarmenNQ_OT @clissa89 Agree,students especially find it useful, it is a very “approachable” model.#Occhat

OTtwehytweets
RT @Helen_otuk@gerbil10 challenge = weighting the importance / meaning for the individual of the P E or O #Occhat

BillWongOT
@gerbil10 @OTtwehytweets @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 Same goes w/ my OTD in US. Leave door open for teaching later. #occhat

eileenhegarty7
@kilner100 I find that much easier to conceptualise and to see that changing over time #occhat

francescaabrown
@sophiewearing asa student on my first placement it was a great introduction in to using models but I agree that it lacked the depth #Occhat

sophiewearing
@francescaabrown Towards a different model for outcome measures or outcome measures generally?#Occhat

BoothRach
@BoothRach@clissa89 good question, has other models developed further? Did it go out of fashion like the use of activities? #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 and when I say I learned I was asked to pick a model to guide my intervention & used PEO so researched myself #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
I can completly understand importance of E as coming from country in which CBR and acess to P life is restricted in a way #Occhat

clissa89
@sophiewearing think when I saw the picture as a student I thought “yup, got that” and didnt look further#confessions #Occhat

sophiewearing
@clissa89 But I see that as a good thing!Why should we struggle with ones that dont neccesarily click with our own learning/setting? #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 I wud have preferred 2 have had guidance on appropriate references 2guide my practice #Occhat

gerbil10
1/2 #occhat @eileenhegarty7 what I like about these models is that E includes the local policies and criteria that impacts on intervention

sophiewearing
@clissa89 Having said that,sometimes a new model brings up interesting points never thought of in that setting #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
@clissa89 #occhat CBR =community based rehabilitation

clissa89
@Sasa_Radic thanks for clarifying 🙂 #occhat

OTtwehytweets
RT @sophiewearing@clissa89 Having said that,sometimes a new model brings up interesting points never thought of in that setting #Occhat

sophiewearing
@francescaabrown Well in our ALS@work we have explored a few& I know we were looking at #COPM and another…cant remember which tho! #Occhat

eileenhegarty7
@gerbil10 Yes, considering policy builds in an advocacy and leadership role for #occupationaltherapy#occhat

gerbil10
RT @eileenhegarty7@gerbil10 Yes, considering policy builds in an advocacy and leadership role for#occupationaltherapy #occhat

sophiewearing
@Helen_otuk @francescaabrown models have gaps though, there are few that really do cover everything for your setting #Occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 E is really important. Learned it the hard way in the placement that I flunked. #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 the thing I love about the transactional analysis of P E O is that it is often hard to know which is influence which #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 I know from my personal experience, E can be a crucial factor for me to succeed in occupations or not. #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 just take #otalk and #occhat for example- you guys are friendly. Hence, I can do the occupation of contributing well. 🙂 #occhat

Sasa_Radic
@sophiewearing what models do you think cover most areas? @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown #Occhat

Helen_otuk
@maggie_c2 @clissa89 but helpful to put the individual and support at the heart of what we do? #Occhat

GillyGorry
RT @Sasa_Radic@sophiewearing what models do you think cover most areas? @Helen_otuk@francescaabrown #Occhat

gerbil10
Last question for #occhat. Regarding E what social and economic policies influence the interventions you provide.

BillWongOT
@kilner100 @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 another 1 I think about is accessibility w/ “E”. E can be a barrier for some1 in participation. #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@kilner100 @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 “e” was one of the most important on community paeds placement. School/home environment #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
Thing whith the E is that you can do you best with P and O but if E is not facilitating there is no long term progress #Occhat

gerbil10
@BillWongOT @kilner100 @eileenhegarty7 so true #occhat

CarmenNQ_OT
@clissa89 its amazing how different OT programmes are just within the UK let alone worldwide!! #occhat

sophiewearing
@Sasa_Radic @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown That depends on lots of aspects&factors!In my opinion,depends on setting/client group/needs #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I totally agree much focus is entirely on MOHO & COPM #Occhat with other models “just about” mentioned

francescaabrown
At uni, PEO models are rarely discussed. There is a big emphasis on MOHO + COPM which I think can lessen the value #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I guess this is where our self directed learning must come in #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
RT @OTtwehytweets@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I totally agree much focus is entirely on MOHO & COPM #Occhat with other models “just about…

Sasa_Radic
@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk and KAWA if specific OT community has had an course on it #Occhat

kilner100
@gerbil10 last placement in a school setting, local school policy but changes in national sen policy key influences #occhat

eileenhegarty7
@BillWongOT @gerbil10 E can provide lots of resources such as social, community and peer groups#occhat

Trio33
Hello everyone just saying hi and lurking for a while 😉 #occhat

clissa89
@Trio33 glad to have you here 🙂 #occhat

Wardmans
@OTalk_Occhat true! I consider a model something you can do wrong and a guideline something you just do. #Occhat

gerbil10
@gerbil10 for me the PEO and PEOP provide me with away of incorporating these two hats into one#Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@OTalk_Occhat my take away message is to make the time to read through @gerbil10 references in blog & set more goals to research:) #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
@OTalk_Occhat That maybe we would need to have more #Occhat about models and their aplications in practice

clissa89
(As a side note, on the theme of copy cat, I just have to share this picture http://t.co/Tu0WtfrHVl via@mmolineux#occhat

gerbil10
@OTalk_Occhat how fast 60 minutes can go and the challenge of keeping up the conversation during#Occhat

eileenhegarty7
@clissa89 I look forward to that #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 should invite @michael_iwama as the host for this. 🙂 #occhat

GillyGorry
Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat

Sasa_Radic
@clissa89 @gerbil10 Thank you also will research more #Occhat

BoothRach
So sorry #Luther is about to start on BBC1 need to watch it, but will catch up on #Occhat later

BillWongOT
@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

gerbil10
Thank you everyone #occhat. What an experience. Please feel free to contact me through my blog and hope it has provided an insight into PEO

Sasa_Radic
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

kilner100
RT @Sasa_Radic@OTalk_Occhat That maybe we would need to have more #Occhat about models and their aplications in practice

gerbil10
@clissa89 thank you it has been a really valuable experience. #Occhat

GillyGorry
RT @OTtwehytweets@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I guess this is where our self directed learning must come in #Occhat

MrDarrenGormley
RT @GillyGorry: Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat

maggie_c2
@OTalk_Occhat continuing 2 try & ensure practice reflects models ensures both occupation focus & holistic approach;always more to do #occhat

Sasa_Radic
RT @clissa89@gerbil10 have you got a link to your blog handy? #occhat

kilner100
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 my blog address is http://t.co/opl4oAFtWE It will give me the motivation to keep it more up to date. #occhat

maggie_c2
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 Definitely -also highlights not just physical environment but social element too;thinking more preventative 2 #occhat

francescaabrown
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

Helen_otuk
#Occhat thanks to @gerbil10 great topic! I think we have a new convert, so thanks for such a great debate one and all.

clissa89
Thanks to everyone who participated in #occhat tonight 🙂 & if you fancy hosting a chat/suggesting a topic, let the @OTalk_Occhat team know!

OTtwehytweets
RT @clissa89: Thanks to everyone who participated in #occhat tonight 🙂 & if you fancy hosting a chat/suggesting a topic, let the @OTalk_Oc

maggie_c2
@OTalk_Occhat @clissa89 – sorry forgot the tag! Really liked the two presentations in the blog; good summaries #occhat

OTtwehytweets
RT @gerbil10@clissa89 my blog address is http://t.co/opl4oAFtWE It will give me the motivation to keep it more up to date. #occhat

Keeper85
#occhat ooo what was the topic today??

clissa89
@kilner100 @eileenhegarty7 impressive multitasking 🙂 #occupationalBalance #occhat

clissa89
@Keeper85 we discussed the PEO/PEOP models tonight. have you used them? #occhat

Sasa_Radic
RT @clissa89@Keeper85 we discussed the PEO/PEOP models tonight. have you used them? #occhat

KirkwoodMaureen
@GillyGorry: Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat

OTsinlondon
Short story, long cycle. #lost in spite of google maps. No battery so no #Occhat 😦 will catch up tomorrow.

OTalk_Occhat
Had a great response from the #OTalk #Occhat community about a journal club so far, keep your thoughts coming. http://t.co/FbJxY70xZd