HCPC Audit – Special OTalk
Date: 01/10/2013 Host: @The_HCPC
Blog Post – Transcript – Post Chat Summary
Continue reading “#OTalk Tuesday 1 October 2013 – “HCPC, CPD and Registration”
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HCPC Audit – Special OTalk
Date: 01/10/2013 Host: @The_HCPC
Blog Post – Transcript – Post Chat Summary
Continue reading “#OTalk Tuesday 1 October 2013 – “HCPC, CPD and Registration”
Hi everyone -hope you enjoyed the TRAMm talk last night, huge thanks to the TRAMm team for agreeing to host. I started to track my CPD Activities from the summer last night and realised why I’m so tired ;o)
You can find the original blog post here.
A link to a storify of the chat here.
And the healthcare hashtags transcript here – also copied below.
| BAOTCOT | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion We are hosting #otalk Tuesday 24/9/13. For some background have a look at http://t.co/ILquoHJ7lm | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion @NW_BAOT “@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/RPNtr6J1z4” | |
| kirstyes | @Angiecog Hi Angela. Great to see you here. A good hashtag to look out for is #otalk | |
| BAOTNYRegion | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion @NW_BAOT “@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/RPN… | |
| emerging2OT | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion @NW_BAOT “@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/RPN… | |
| pd2ot | @tabbycats4 MT”@OTalk_Occhat: Transcript of @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” is now available: http://t.co/WLG5FnZZeK” | |
| clissa89 | Final #OTuesday in my current post (acute inpatient #mentalhealth). No #OTalk or #GBBO for me tonight, I’m clothes-swapping! #transition | |
| family_success | RT @clissa89: Final #OTuesday in my current post (acute inpatient #mentalhealth). No #OTalk or #GBBO for me tonight, I’m clothes-swapping! … | |
| clissa89 | Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsangsusie | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa… | |
| clissa89 | “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t.co/2Svylv4smM | |
| IamCarrieeeeee | RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t… | |
| BoothRach | Having just read @TRAMMCPD blog for tonight’s #otalk I’m going to join in tonight #CPD | |
| TRAMMCPD | RT @BoothRach: Having just read @TRAMMCPD blog for tonight’s #otalk I’m going to join in tonight #CPD | |
| OTalk_Occhat | Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P | |
| lapsangsusie | RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa… | |
| lapsangsusie | So I did some writing last week “@OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/KQpiyOWhaS” | |
| BoothRach | #otalk about #CPD http://t.co/qSNYYePqi9 @MaryBoothOT @studentMHOT @1804lexi @samuel27elliott @OTEmma @twinkle4me @DawnFraser_OT | |
| emerging2OT | RT @OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P | |
| OTalk_Occhat | RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa… | |
| emerging2OT | RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa… | |
| OTSM2011 | RT @BoothRach: Having just read @TRAMMCPD blog for tonight’s #otalk I’m going to join in tonight #CPD | |
| OTalk_Occhat | RT @lapsangsusie: So I did some writing last week “@OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http… | |
| Saraswati_dee | RT @OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P | |
| OTalk_Occhat | @BillWongOT hi Bill, today’s #OTalk topic is the @TRAMMCPD model #OTuesday | |
| OTalk_Occhat | @BillWongOT hi Bill, today’s #OTalk topic is the @TRAMMCPD model #OTuesday (CS) | |
| SullivanTheresa | #OT6140 When OT Goes Wrong… An #OTalk twitter chat summary.. http://t.co/wceEJj4fXa | |
| SullivanTheresa | #OT6140 RT @OTalk_Occhat 11m Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/vFnIW5LNfc | |
| family_success | RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t… | |
| family_success | RT @OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P | |
| BoothRach | Just settled in to my hotel, and walked round to a place called the waterline, for my tea. All alone in newcastle | |
| kirstyes | RT @OTalk_Occhat: @BillWongOT hi Bill, today’s #OTalk topic is the @TRAMMCPD model #OTuesday (CS) | |
| MaryBoothOT | RT @BoothRach: #otalk about #CPD http://t.co/qSNYYePqi9 @MaryBoothOT @studentMHOT @1804lexi @samuel27elliott @OTEmma @twinkle4me @DawnFrase… | |
| TRAMMCPD | Off to make a cuppa ready for #OTalk | |
| OTprocess | RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa… | |
| JeSuisLucie | #GBBO set to record, flapjacks in the oven, and cuppa in hand. Ready for #OTalk 🙂 | |
| merrolee | #OTalk morning all from NZ | |
| BAOTNYRegion | The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk | |
| merrolee | #OTalk hello | |
| BoothRach | The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk | |
| gillyflower78 | RT @BoothRach: The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk | |
| merrolee | #OTalk morning all from New Zealand my tweets slow to appear today!!! | |
| kirstyes | .@merrolee hi great to see you here. We get going in 4 minutes. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | “@BoothRach: The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk” how did I not know this? | |
| OTalk_Occhat | #OTalk on @TRAMMCPD model starts in 3 minutes. http://t.co/vzlsHgT4PK follow link to find out CPD style. I’ll be supporting on @kirstyes | |
| merrolee | RT @kirstyes: .@merrolee hi great to see you here. We get going in 4 minutes. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | pre-tweeting again for #otalk again today. 😦 Apparently it will be this way until end of 2013 at least. Missing everyone! | |
| kirstyes | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk on @TRAMMCPD model starts in 3 minutes. http://t.co/vzlsHgT4PK follow link to find out CPD style. I’ll be support… | |
| BillWongOT | One thing I find as a practitioner now, it’s much harder to keep up with CPD. 1/2 #otalk | |
| kirstyes | Evening all – who’s here for #otalk? @TRAMMCPD – I know you have a question to kick things off? | |
| GillyGorry | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk on @TRAMMCPD model starts in 3 minutes. http://t.co/vzlsHgT4PK follow link to find out CPD style. I’ll be support… | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk welcome all. What’s your CPD style? | |
| merrolee | @BillWongOT #OTalk gd point but do reflect on how u define cpd. As new practitioner yr learning curve is huge | |
| eileenhegarty7 | I’m here although could be lurking a lot tonight after my second day of new job #otalk | |
| GillyGorry | @merrolee hello 🙂 great to have you 🙂 #otalk | |
| merrolee | @GillyGorry #OTalk for little while.. Have to leave for work soon | |
| BillWongOT | As a new practitioner, I am spending more time prepping for clients I am getting to know than CPD. 2/2 #otalk | |
| GillyGorry | @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD looking forward to tonight. Saw tramm presented at NWBAOT in 2012 like the sound of it #otalk | |
| gillyflower78 | @TRAMMCPD Used to be sit-on-the-fence cowboy style. But now I’m in 3rdyr I’ve become pro-active! #loveTRAMm #otalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | Up to now my CPD style has been do a bit of everything – no real plan #otalk | |
| kirstyes | .@TRAMMCPD Think my students (any here?) will laugh when I admit although like to think I’m strategic and planned- bull in china shop #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @gillyflower78 #otalk, that’s great to hear. Are you using the Tracker and Trail as well? | |
| Sasa_Radic | I would like to know more about TRAMm as CPD is new in Croatia #OTalk | |
| Helen_otuk | Hi #otalk trying to follow from phone this eve…. | |
| kirstyes | RT @merrolee: @BillWongOT #OTalk gd point but do reflect on how u define cpd. As new practitioner yr learning curve is huge | |
| LAThompsonOT | @clissa89 @acarerseyes @lapsangsusie Valuable to me as a professional! Thanks for sharing #OTalk | |
| GillyGorry | @TRAMMCPD What a good question- a little chaotic with a pinch of creativity and aspiring to be more organised… I do, do lots of it #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @eileenhegarty7 Evening – hope it’s going well #OTalk | |
| Sasa_Radic | @TRAMMCPD @gillyflower78 Traker and trail? #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD Used to be sit-on-the-fence cowboy style. But now I’m in 3rdyr I’ve become pro-active! #loveTRAMm #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | A good example of what I am talking about- I have not read an #OT journal article since I completed my OTD. #otalk | |
| AnnabelFenn | @TRAMMCPD Evening all – I admit my CPD style is bull in the china shop! #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD That’s great to hear – does that mean you’ve found something that works for you? #OTalk | |
| JeSuisLucie | @TRAMMCPD my style is… enthusiastic, but not very well planned. #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | Welcome from Croatia @Sasa_Radic – what are your CPD requirements there? #OTalk | |
| merrolee | #OTalk I’m a little like @kirstyes mostly strategic, sometimes opportunistic. Not easy to be strategic if unaware.. | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @kirstyes It is – I’m so delighted to be started in my first Ot post #otalk | |
| GillyGorry | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @OTTM2009 @debhearle I was really impressed by the concept #otalk | |
| SarahMassey92 | Interesting topic on #otalk tonight, as a student I’m always interested in CPD especially as I enter 3rd year. | |
| BillWongOT | Meanwhile, my strategy for CPD has evolved. I used to go to #OT conference based on speakers. #otalk 1/2 | |
| Sasa_Radic | #OTalk I was doing CPD since graduation, in the last year following #Otalk realized importance oc strategic planning in CPD | |
| TRAMMCPD | @gillyflower78 #otalk that’s great, do you use a reflective tool as well? | |
| Sasa_Radic | RT @TRAMMCPD: @gillyflower78 #otalk that’s great, do you use a reflective tool as well? | |
| kirstyes | RT @JeSuisLucie: @TRAMMCPD my style is… enthusiastic, but not very well planned. #OTalk | |
| BoothRach | Sorry I’m late but here #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | hi everyone sorry im late #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | Now, I am going to #OT conference workshops based on topics of need for my job in pediatrics. #otalk 2/2 | |
| kirstyes | @JeSuisLucie @TRAMMCPD Lovethis #otalk.I’d say that was quite accurate for me too.Although I plan but get excited by different opportunities | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @GillyGorry @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes Me too. Registration is just coming in here in Ireland and looks like we’ll need a strategic plan #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible | |
| kirstyes | @SarahMassey92 Yes great to get a handle on it before you enter practice. #OTalk | |
| GillyGorry | @merrolee @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @OTTM2009 @debhearle yeah I think the self directed element appealed to me #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @Sasa_Radic Glad to hear #otalk has helped there. | |
| GillyGorry | RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible | |
| gillyflower78 | @TRAMMCPD This works for me, Tracker nags away at my conscience if I don’t update it regularly now! #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @BillWongOT: Now, I am going to #OT conference workshops based on topics of need for my job in pediatrics. #otalk 2/2 | |
| gillyflower78 | RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible | |
| BillWongOT | That said, I am slowly planning on the certifications I will get for peds- SIPT, NDT, HWT, and feeding/swallowing. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | Another good point @BillWongOT – often CPD requirements are about meeting standards of job and not just about interest. #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible | |
| JeSuisLucie | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes I really like the sound of this, it appeals to me and my love of lists and spreadsheets!! #OTalk | |
| SarahMassey92 | @kirstyes So I hear. Trying to do what I can, especially with my ideas such as the online journal club and others I’ve had. #OTalk | |
| Sasa_Radic | @kirstyes #OTalk We collect points for going on different courses, lectures, workshops, writing articles. But the system has so many gaps | |
| kirstyes | @TRAMMCPD Think this is similar to the ‘activity summary’ I use with the students I work with.Great idea to keep track of everything. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @GillyGorry: @merrolee @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @OTTM2009 @debhearle yeah I think the self directed element appealed to me #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | .@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD Ha – love that you’ve created a CPD nagger! #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk I use Tracker to record everything, team meetings, supervision, training, anything OT related formal or informal | |
| BillWongOT | Through observation of my CPD strategies, I feel that students can benefit from casting a wide net in CPD. 1/2 #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk No everything is free to download from our website http://t.co/C37nLKuSkG | |
| merrolee | #OTalk sorry have to leave technology not playing game and have to go to work 😦 | |
| BoothRach | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk No everything is free to download from our website http://t.co/C37nLKuSkG | |
| Sasa_Radic | Inner driven CPD is great, but what if OTcommunity does it just for points or similar #OTalk | |
| gillyflower78 | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes Not that Tracker is annoying 😉 Just effective. I set a time each week to update it, just in case I forget… #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @merrolee #otalk thanks for joining us. We’ll be in touch soon | |
| kirstyes | RT @JeSuisLucie: @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes I really like the sound of this, it appeals to me and my love of lists and spreadsheets!! #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @gillyflower78 @kirstyes #otalk That’s great, it is most effective when used regularly | |
| kirstyes | .@Sasa_Radic yes not sure how keen I am on points based system. As @merrolee advised being self directed important #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | Practitioners, however, are probably more needs based… often dictated by their areas of practice. #otalk 2/2 | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes That sounds like a good system. Do you find it easy to keep to it? #otalk | |
| BoothRach | I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk | |
| gillyflower78 | @JeSuisLucie @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD I agree. It feels systematic and that it covers all bases. #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk what other CPD tools are available that you are using? | |
| gillyflower78 | @BoothRach @TRAMMCPD I’d be interested to know too. TRAMm is the 1st tool I’ve used, other than my own personal organising #OTalk | |
| Sasa_Radic | @kirstyes @merrolee #OTalk I completly agree. This grading system is not good. | |
| TRAMMCPD | @JeSuisLucie #otalk That’s how/why TRAMm was conceived. Using Appreciative Inquiry with lots of enthusiasm that needed a structure | |
| pd2ot | RT @lapsangsusie: So I did some writing last week “@OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http… | |
| BillWongOT | In US in my opinion, there are many CPD options. #otalk 1/3 | |
| GillyGorry | RT @BoothRach: I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk | |
| pd2ot | RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t… | |
| Sasa_Radic | RT @BoothRach: I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk | |
| kirstyes | .@BillWongOT Important to balance this with thinking to the future and planning for longer term career #OTalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @TRAMMCPD TRAMm is the first comprehensive tool I’ve come across. Our national org AOTI have a tracker and a reflection guide #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Sasa_Radic: Inner driven CPD is great, but what if OTcommunity does it just for points or similar #OTalk | |
| BoothRach | #otalk sorry full of questions tonight this tool is new to me and just had a brief look, so am I right in thinking you download and keep! | |
| Sasa_Radic | RT @kirstyes: .@BillWongOT Important to balance this with thinking to the future and planning for longer term career #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | The good- diverse options = something for every OT student and practitioner. #otalk 2/3 | |
| BoothRach | #otalk it’s not keep on line some where? | |
| JeSuisLucie | @TRAMMCPD I’m going to d/l and give it a go soon. Sounds like it suits my style #OTalk | |
| SarahMassey92 | I’m glad TRAMm has been brought to my attention. It looks like something I could use that is clear and concise #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | The bad- each state have different requirements (on top of 1’s by NBCOT), and generally the requirements are too easy to reach. #otalk 3/3 | |
| gillyflower78 | @BoothRach Yes, store on your computer and as paper copy. I’ve organised my records to correlate with the TRAMm stops #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BoothRach #otalk Yes, download & complete, make it work for u & your organisation. Welcome to contact us, via the website if u have queries | |
| Sasa_Radic | RT @SarahMassey92: I’m glad TRAMm has been brought to my attention. It looks like something I could use that is clear and concise #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BoothRach #otalk not yet but it is something for future consideration | |
| eileenhegarty7 | RT @SarahMassey92: I’m glad TRAMm has been brought to my attention. It looks like something I could use that is clear and concise #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | RT @Sasa_Radic: Inner driven CPD is great, but what if OTcommunity does it just for points or similar #OTalk | |
| BoothRach | @kirstyes ok I have heard of e portfolios to, I have mind saved but my CPD is one if the only things I print and put in a file #otalk | |
| gillyflower78 | @trammcpd @kirstyes Any pointers for those of us getting to grips with the model?Presenting TRAMm to peers next week #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | As a new kid on the block at work, the fact that my boss doesn’t discourage me to go to OT conferences is pretty good already 4 CPD. #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BillWongOT #otalk Isn’t CPD more than just attending conferences? | |
| BoothRach | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach #otalk Yes, download & complete, make it work for u & your organisation. Welcome to contact us, via the website if… | |
| BoothRach | @TRAMMCPD great #otalk | |
| BoothRach | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BillWongOT #otalk Isn’t CPD more than just attending conferences? | |
| SarahMassey92 | @BoothRach @kirstyes I like the idea of electronic copies but it’s satisfying having hard evidence of work done in a file. #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | The fact that my boss allows me to do an inservice (an abridged version of my presentation with @CharOTReilly next month) is a bonus. #otalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @kirstyes @BoothRach I’d like to set up a blog in the new year. Keeping my portfolio electronically as a blog is an appealing idea #otalk | |
| kirstyes | “@TRAMMCPD: @BillWongOT #otalk Isn’t CPD more than just attending conferences?” Definitely, not many OTs attend conferences really | |
| BoothRach | @SarahMassey92 @kirstyes I know I like to look at mind, all colour coordinated and sometimes might stroke it’! #otgeek#otalk | |
| BoothRach | @TRAMMCPD yes I think so! #otalk | |
| JeSuisLucie | @eileenhegarty7 @kirstyes @BoothRach I use my blog for CPD stuff as well as reflective accounts or practical applications of theory #OTalk | |
| BoothRach | RT @eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes @BoothRach I’d like to set up a blog in the new year. Keeping my portfolio electronically as a blog is an app… | |
| GillyGorry | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach #otalk Yes, download & complete, make it work for u & your organisation. Welcome to contact us, via the website if… | |
| BillWongOT | If I have a word of advice 4 new practitioners, knowing their competencies is important information to base their CPD strategies on. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | .@eileenhegarty7 @BoothRach with Wordpess you can make posts secret and password protected so can balance public/private reflection #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BoothRach #otalk this is part of the reason why we do not have e portfolio available at present | |
| BoothRach | RT @kirstyes: .@eileenhegarty7 @BoothRach with Wordpess you can make posts secret and password protected so can balance public/private refl… | |
| kirstyes | @BoothRach @SarahMassey92 lol #otalk | |
| BoothRach | @kirstyes @eileenhegarty7 this is good to know! #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | Another advice 4 new practitioners- Prioritize CPD goals, based on personal interests and needs at work. #otalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @JeSuisLucie @kirstyes @BoothRach I’ll start following your blog, Lucie. Thanks #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @TRAMMCPD @BoothRach realistically you should aim to keep your CPD confidential if offline on paper or online. #otalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | RT @BoothRach: @kirstyes @eileenhegarty7 this is good to know! #OTalk | |
| BoothRach | RT @kirstyes: @TRAMMCPD @BoothRach realistically you should aim to keep your CPD confidential if offline on paper or online. #otalk | |
| SarahMassey92 | @BoothRach @kirstyes That sounds like geekery heaven…If only I was that organised :(. #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk and anything submitted to HCPC must maintain confidentiality | |
| MissHeldi | RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t… | |
| BoothRach | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk and anything submitted to HCPC must maintain confidentiality | |
| TRAMMCPD | RT @BillWongOT: Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @BillWongOT: Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk out of interest has anyone been called for HCPC audit? | |
| BillWongOT | My take home point is- CPD strategies can change over time in our OT journeys. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | .@TRAMMCPD Can you just tell us a little more about the Trail element? #OTalk | |
| SarahMassey92 | @BillWongOT Wish this was said to my educators. Would have been insightful to see different CPD files with guidance on starting mine #OTalk | |
| Sasa_Radic | RT @kirstyes: .@TRAMMCPD Can you just tell us a little more about the Trail element? #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes: @TRAMMCPD no, I was going to do it anyway but so far other things have stopped me. Must try and find time. #otalk | |
| BoothRach | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes I get the letter the two years I have not been on the ball knowing me! #otalk | |
| BoothRach | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @The_HCPC plus I thin the experience would be good #otalk | |
| Helen_otuk | RT @BillWongOT: Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @Sasa_Radic @kirstyes @debhearle #otalk even if OT community does CPD 4 points its important 2 use cpd tools to be strategic planning career | |
| BillWongOT | Another take home point- 4 students transitioning to OT’s, they should think of CPD strategies b4 their 1st day working as an OT. #otalk | |
| GillyGorry | Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by journal club 8-9 | |
| BoothRach | RT @TRAMMCPD: @Sasa_Radic @kirstyes @debhearle #otalk even if OT community does CPD 4 points its important 2 use cpd tools to be strategic … | |
| kirstyes | RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by… | |
| Helen_otuk | RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by… | |
| TRAMMCPD | RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by… | |
| BoothRach | RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by… | |
| Sasa_Radic | RT @TRAMMCPD: @Sasa_Radic @kirstyes @debhearle #otalk even if OT community does CPD 4 points its important 2 use cpd tools to be strategic … | |
| kirstyes | Last five minutes. We should probably move to take away points. #otalk Huge thanks to the @TRAMMCPD team for hosting. | |
| BoothRach | RT @kirstyes: Last five minutes. We should probably move to take away points. #otalk Huge thanks to the @TRAMMCPD team for hosting. | |
| Helen_otuk | @TRAMMCPD has anyone using TRAMm been audited and reported on usefulness in process? #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk consider what drives u on cpd journey besides being regulated | |
| kirstyes | Don’t forget to comment on the Journal Club blog. Yes I know I need to also.Aiming to do Friday if not before. http://t.co/Onxro8YUMm #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Helen_otuk: @TRAMMCPD has anyone using TRAMm been audited and reported on usefulness in process? #otalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD Take away points – get strategic with CPD and learn from the experience of others #otalk | |
| BoothRach | Take away points #otalk I need to think More widely about my CPD, and think I will discuss this with my team and students on placement! | |
| gillyflower78 | @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk | |
| BoothRach | RT @eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD Take away points – get strategic with CPD and learn from the experience of others #otalk | |
| Helen_otuk | RT @kirstyes: Don’t forget to comment on the Journal Club blog. Yes I know I need to also.Aiming to do Friday if not before. http://t.co/On… | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @kirstyes Looking forward to first Journal Club. Planning to comment at the weekend #otalk | |
| Zoe_with2dots | RT @kirstyes: Don’t forget to comment on the Journal Club blog. Yes I know I need to also.Aiming to do Friday if not before. http://t.co/On… | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk many thanks everyone for joining us. Sorry if we have not replied to everyone. | |
| BoothRach | RT @gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk Remeber strategic CPD is important for yourself not just maintaining registration. TRAMm can help you achieve this… | |
| kirstyes | “@gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk” As it should be always ideally. | |
| gillyflower78 | @TRAMMCPD Thanks for hosting, enjoyed tonight’s #OTalk | |
| LeonoraOT | Hi #otalk late but interested to read through your chat 🙂 | |
| BoothRach | RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk Remeber strategic CPD is important for yourself not just maintaining registration. TRAMm can help you achieve this… | |
| kirstyes | @LeonoraOT interested in your thoughts too. #otalk | |
| eileenhegarty7 | @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes Thanking for hosting and for bringing this exciting tool to my attention. Talk to you all next week #otalk | |
| SarahMassey92 | My #OTalk take home point is start ASAP and get to grips with the TRAMm format. | |
| kirstyes | How great that next week 7-8 will follow this up with a chat by @The_HCPC #otalk | |
| Helen_otuk | @gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD not just as a student life long learner is my motivation. #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @SarahMassey92 good plan! #otalk | |
| Helen_otuk | Yay “@eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes Looking forward to first Journal Club. Planning to comment at the weekend #otalk” | |
| TRAMMCPD | @gillyflower78 @kirstyes #otalk Start as mean to go on… | |
| SarahMassey92 | Also glad to see so much enthusiasm for the online journal club. Hope to put that in my CPD as a new service 🙂 #OTalk | |
| JeSuisLucie | really interested in trying @TRAMMCPD, thanks for hosting!! #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | .@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD Think you may be what @merrolee would call a self directed learner! #otalk | |
| Helen_otuk | You would think we planned it. Strategic “@kirstyes: How great that next week 7-8 will follow this up with a chat by @The_HCPC #otalk” | |
| TRAMMCPD | #otalk remember: don’t worry about the bag/drawer full of CPD certificates just start NOW to avoid panic in 2 yrs time | |
| kirstyes | RT @Helen_otuk: You would think we planned it. Strategic “@kirstyes: How great that next week 7-8 will follow this up with a chat by @The_… | |
| kirstyes | @Helen_otuk @The_HCPC lol. #otalk | |
| gillyflower78 | @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD @merrolee Or is that #OTgeek? 😉 #OTalk | |
| gillyflower78 | RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk remember: don’t worry about the bag/drawer full of CPD certificates just start NOW to avoid panic in 2 yrs time | |
| Helen_otuk | Same thing? “@gillyflower78: @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD @merrolee Or is that #OTgeek? 😉 #OTalk” | |
| GillyGorry | thanks @TRAMMCPD for a great #otalk and to @kirstyes for doing a fab job supporting as always 🙂 | |
| kirstyes | “@gillyflower78: @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD @merrolee Or is that #OTgeek? 😉 #OTalk” same thing I believe. | |
| GillyGorry | is going to put some serious effort into getting my Tramm on 🙂 #otalk #cpd #occupationaltherapy #organisemychaos | |
| Helen_otuk | Been a bit tricky following on phone this eve. But enjoyed too. Thanks. #otalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @kirstyes #otalk Many thanks for your support tonight | |
| TRAMMCPD | RT @GillyGorry: is going to put some serious effort into getting my Tramm on 🙂 #otalk #cpd #occupationaltherapy #organisemychaos | |
| kirstyes | Night all. Will try and get transcript up ASAP but please forgive me if not tomorrow night. Cold a brewing. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @TRAMMCPD more than welcome. A topic close to my heart. Going to aim to be less Bull more Chessboard. #otalk | |
| CroftVictoria | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/FQx9eT56me | |
| kirstyes | RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk remember: don’t worry about the bag/drawer full of CPD certificates just start NOW to avoid panic in 2 yrs time | |
| kirstyes | .@TRAMMCPD excellent advice. #otalk | |
| gillyflower78 | RT @GillyGorry: thanks @TRAMMCPD for a great #otalk and to @kirstyes for doing a fab job supporting as always 🙂 | |
| BMCOKCOTAS | Hey @Upworthy and @Love146 check out @NoBoundariesOKC @NoBoundariesInt #HT #OTalk #OTuesday | |
| TRAMMCPD | @Sasa_Radic #otalk thank you for joining us tonight. If you need more information don’t hesitate to contact us | |
| Bucowa_Magi | ♥♥ #MeetOtaku #OTalk #Code_Geass http://t.co/qJRJVDsbDM | |
| clearsci | @kirstyes what’re you using for the #otalk transcripts? Have you considered http://t.co/f3uLWc18OW may be easier & quick. 🙂 Happy to advise | |
| family_success | RT @eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes Looking forward to first Journal Club. Planning to comment at the weekend #otalk | |
| N_504_144 | RT @Bucowa_Magi: ♥♥ #MeetOtaku #OTalk #Code_Geass http://t.co/qJRJVDsbDM | |
| LeonoraOT | It’s worth checking out RT“@TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk No everything is free to download from our website http://t.co/HH56XSfE58†| |
| LeonoraOT | RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by… | |
| MaryBoothOT | RT @BoothRach: Just settled in to my hotel, and walked round to a place called the waterline, for my tea. All alone in newcastle | |
| Wardmans | RT @BoothRach: I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk | |
| zero0sama | RT @Bucowa_Magi: ♥♥ #MeetOtaku #OTalk #Code_Geass http://t.co/qJRJVDsbDM | |
| BillWongOT | @merrolee it is so huge that it is overwhelming. It’s hard to keep up w/ latest evidence while learning vital skills to be on my own. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes I think there is an interest part to this- I prefer pediatrics, hence my CPD focus is on it. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @kirstyes: .@BillWongOT Important to balance this with thinking to the future and planning for longer term career #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes for longer term career, I do have teaching in mind. OT’s with OTD’s can teach at OT programs in US. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD I attend conferences because I want to set a good CPD example for my mentees. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD another reason I attend conferences because I love presenting at conferences. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD but u are right, had I not been who I am in OT… 13 conferences will be > twice of my career total instead. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @gillyflower78 my strategy for the next few years is going beyond autism for CPD in pediatrics. 1/2 #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @gillyflower78 the only times I will do that is either the speaker is good, or I am preparing for an #ot conference proposal. 2/2 #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @SarahMassey92 personally I mentor students in professional development for this reason. I will tell them my strategies as I go. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @SarahMassey92: Also glad to see so much enthusiasm for the online journal club. Hope to put that in my CPD as a new service 🙂 #OTalk | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BillWongOT #otalk CPD is about what u ‘do’ with knowledge gained at conf to improve ur practice. 1/2 | |
| BAOTNYRegion | RT @TRAMMCPD: @BillWongOT #otalk CPD is about what u ‘do’ with knowledge gained at conf to improve ur practice. 1/2 | |
| TRAMMCPD | @BillWongOT #otalk. CPD Everyday learning is as important, if not more so, to improve practice alongside listening2/2 http://t.co/tshW7SoPDJ | |
| Helen_otuk | @DawnFraser_OT Dawn, welcome to the world of #OTGEEK, which is alive a well in the twitterverse. I would recommend #OTalk Tuesday 8pm. | |
| kirstyes | @clearsci @TRAMMCPD Great – thanks – will link to in the blog post tonight. #otalk | |
| BAOTCOT | Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” – food for thought! http://t.co/oVbtxyECVT | |
| KellyOT | RT @BAOTCOT: Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” – food for thought! http://t.co/oVbtxyECVT | |
| OTBeth131 | RT @BAOTCOT: Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” – food for thought! http://t.co/oVbtxyECVT | |
| OTtwehy | @TRAMMCPD sorry to have missed #otalk last night. Looking forward to catching up I’m sure it was a great one. | |
| TRAMMCPD | @OTtwehy we really enjoyed #otalk. The summary should be up soon.There was so much going on all at once. You’re hosting one soon aren’t you? | |
| OTtwehy | @TRAMMCPD awh I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙂 yep I’m hosting #otalk on the 29th of October is it as scary as I think? | |
| TRAMMCPD | @OTtwehy #otalk I was really nervous before start, needn’t have been. @kirstyes was great and DM me with tips as went along. You’ll be fab | |
| TRAMMCPD | @OTtwehy #otalk community really friendly and positive | |
| kirstyes | @OTtwehy @TRAMMCPD Thanks for the kind words. It’s the fab #otalk community that makes it go so smoothly. | |
Last week, @pd2ot hosted an #OTalk entitled “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” (the transcript of the chat can be found at this link). Following this chat, we invited people to continue the conversation, unrestricted by Twitter’s 140 character limit:
Would anyone like to write a #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-esque blog post (e.g. http://t.co/QSjxxLLms0), following last night’s #OTalk?
— Clarissa (@clissa89) September 18, 2013
I was pleased to receive two thought-provoking responses: one from Sarah (@carerseyes), who blogs about her experiences of caring for her partner with borderline personality disorder, and the other from Linda (@lapsangsusie), who has experienced a range of occupational therapy input as a service user. I’d like to thank both for taking the time and effort to write about their experiences, and welcome further responses from people who have come into contact with occupational therapy services.
The full text of Sarah’s letter can be found on her blog post entitled #DearMentalHealthProfessionals. Here is an excerpt:
You see for me, I don’t get any let up, I cannot go home at the end of my day or shift and sit down and relax, fall asleep knowing that I don’t have to think about any of it until the next day because I have to live with it, even when Chris is in hospital, the problems don’t just vanish because this is my life. I often feel, sadly by some of you that you take me for granted, that I am the first person you will blame when Chris isn’t well, be it because I didn’t lock up his medication, I fell asleep and he left the house or any other number of other factors. Yet I am the last person a lot of you listen to or even think to speak with, I sometimes feel forgotten until you next need someone to shoulder the blame or responsibility. I just want you to work with me, I am there to help you because I love the person I care for very much, I have eight years worth of understanding, please don’t talk to me like I don’t know him at all. While I don’t hold the qualifications you do, while I am not even considered to be employed and I often tackle the daily stigma around all of this, I know more about him than you likely ever will, because it is me who has been his constant for so long.
Linda Bates completed a PhD in medieval literature in 2010. She blogs at lindyb28.blogspot.co.uk on a variety of topics, from ballet to baking, from knitting to novels, but especially on issues surrounding eating disorders…. and her two dogs. She has lived with anorexia since she “gave up eating” at the age of 10 when unwell and unhappy, and is pleased when writing about her experiences allows other people to gain a deeper insight into the illness or its treatment.
Below is the full text of Linda’s letter. Fictional place names have been used(*):
Dear OTs,
My first encounter with your profession was back in 1989. I’d gone into hospital just after my 11th birthday and spent 6 months there. Most weekdays, my physio would give me a piggyback to the hydrotherapy pool, which was right next to the OT “cupboard”. (cupboard is what she called it. But she also told me that OTs were cockroaches and that green uniforms were vastly inferior to blue ones, so it’s possible that we should take her words with a pinch of salt!)
Eventually I figured out that OTs helped people use a kettle if being ill meant that they could no longer make themselves a cup of tea. My uncle had recently had a stroke so I understood the OTs’ role in terms of the kind of rehab that he had experienced.
I didn’t know about the importance of OTs in a mental health setting until my first inpatient admission to an eating disorder unit as an adult in 1998. I spent 9 weeks on bedrest because my physical health on admission was very poor. So the OT was crucial in helping me to avoid bedrest boredom: she would bring down a tray of craft activities to my room and I’d spend an hour (or however long I could manage) with her, escaping into a crafty dimension that sometimes managed to transcend the restrictions of being confined to a small room, 24/7, on constant 1-1 observations. She would also bring a CD player for guided relaxations.
For the rest of that admission, and the next two inpatient admissions in the same unit, my experience of OT followed the same pattern of offering escape from, rather than addressing of, my mental health difficulties. The exception to this was during my third admission (2003-4) when, in addition to craft and relaxation, I also did some work on cooking, shopping and “snacks out” with the OT team. This has been of limited use in practice because of the inherent artificiality: it is as hard to transfer the process of cooking/eating with an OT in a hospital OT kitchen to the daily challenge of bothering to make food for myself as it is to eat the same quantities and types of food served in the ward dining room seven times a day.
That third admission took place between my second and third years of university and I was very fortunate to work closely with an outpatient eating disorders OT during the 6 months before I went up to Casterbridge* in 2001. With her, I was able to move, at a steady pace, from being unable to eat anything that I hadn’t prepared myself to eating an identical meal at a café to having coffee in Rummidge* Uni canteen (our EDU is very close to the Uni) and eventually even trying some food there. So she helped me by focusing in on the specific challenges that I would face as someone starting university with long term restrictive anorexia. Even though it didn’t make it easy to eat in front of people or in communal settings once I was in Casterbridge, it was vital in productively managing my anxiety so that I didn’t become too overwhelmed to make the important step of moving away to university after a total of 14 months in hospital during the few years that had passed after my A Levels.
During a later hospital admission (2007), I was very pleased when a drama group appeared on the group programme. I was doing a PhD in English literature at the time and have always loved drama, even attending a performing arts boarding school for VIth Form. However, when the group began, the two OTs running the session seemed totally unable to cope when I challenged the printed handouts we were given on Macbeth; it gave a summary of the play that was facile and misleading and, rightly or wrongly, my instinct is always to analyse and discuss literature. The OTs didn’t try to incorporate my thoughts into the group so the whole situation became rather negative and frustrating, probably for them as well as for me. After this session, the group was cancelled. On reflection, I wonder whether the OTs could have utilised the skills of the participants in the group, including my literature and theatre background, to improve the way that the group worked for us. I’m not sure whether the group set out with specific aims but I feel that if participants have existing interest or skills in a topic, it’s possible that this could enhance the group’s success rather than making it a failure. Perhaps the difficulty is that a lot of groups operate on a very hierarchical model: the OT or nurse facilitator has The Knowledge and we, as service users, as supposed to be the empty jugs that passively receive it. This model is particularly problematic in eating disorder wards, where many patients have been through the group programme several times before and therefore may know the assertiveness, or self-esteem, or nutrition course as well as the person delivering it.
In 2010, I had another experience of outpatient occupational therapy, this time with a community MHT OT, who admitted to me in the first session that she’d never spoken to a person with an eating disorder before. Our appointments were the result of the community psychiatrist requesting that I be assigned a CPN (Casterbridge Adult EDS were refusing to offer me treatment for my anorexia so general mental health services were trying to work out what to do with me). The meeting of CPNs decided that I didn’t meet the criteria for their lists and therefore, somewhat randomly, I was assigned to the team OT. I had recently submitted my PhD so she mostly focused on what I should Do With My Life and brought in an [employment service] man to speak to me. He had never worked with anyone with a PhD and had not heard of the type of jobs for which I’d been applying. I was struggling very badly at the time with my food intake and was feeling very low about having no purpose now that my PhD was complete; being referred to a service that seemed geared to finding work for people with very different skill sets from my own actually contributed to my growing sense of despair. The tipping point in this relationship came when I arrived at an appointment feeling quite distressed: I had learned that morning that a friend had given birth, which had triggered some painful emotions about being single, with no prospect of either a relationship, and of how long term anorexia may mean that I would never become a mother myself. The OT’s suggestion? I should go to my GP and ask to be referred for artificial insemination. I don’t want to give BMI info that could trigger other people with eating disorders, but it’s important to point out that the likelihood that I could have conceived at that point, let alone carry a baby to term or find the emotional resilience to care for it, was miniscule. This conversation was so distressing for me that I didn’t make any future appointments to meet that OT. At the next appointment with the community psychiatrist, she suggested that I move back to Rummidge so that I could once again access eating disorder treatment. I followed her advice and was back in hospital within a week of seeing the specialist there.
During the 6-month admission that followed, the unit’s inpatient OT was on maternity leave. She had taken her full year’s allowance and the unit had not paid for a replacement. Therefore the group programme was barely running and rehab activities could happen only when the (extremely busy) nursing staff had enough cover to be able to leave the ward. Obviously, as OTs, you can’t control whether you will be replaced if you have time off work; but perhaps you could stress to management how vital your work can be and the ways that patients will be affected in your absence.
Finally, a few months ago, I attended the day treatment service of the same eating disorder unit. This is run by an OT and she has a lot of expertise in running therapeutic groups, which are very beneficial. However, the emphasis on “therapy” is not matched with equivalent “occupational” focus. My main struggles came with facing mealtimes in the dining room and the OT revealed to me that my anxiety was causing her a lot of stress. She was unable to help me make progress with eating and therefore a mutual decision was made that I should be discharged from day treatment.
If you are still reading after I’ve unfolded this long catalogue of OT experiences, thank you for listening to me. I feel that it’s important to state that I have benefited from occupational therapy and I’m sorry that the focus of this piece has been where it has been unhelpful (although I suppose that is inevitable given that the theme of the OTalk that inspired this post was “occupational therapy gone wrong”). I probably should have extrapolated something tangible from each experience to offer as advice for you all. However, I think that is possibly less helpful than saying that my experiences have happened because of me being me: a unique combination of emotions, slightly irrational love of my dogs, education and 30+ years of living in my head. And you can extrapolate, therefore, that each service user is an individual, with their own patchwork of experiences, talents, likes, dislikes, etc. Listening is more important than talking sometimes and, from this, positive therapeutic relationships can emerge.
Update: You may be interested to read Linda’s blog post, “Talking to OTs”, about her experience of participating in #OTalk and the unexpected challenges of sharing her open letter. Reading this made me value even more the way she and others have shared their stories with us, and the vulnerability that this can bring.
TRAMm Model for CPD
Date: 24/09/2013 Host: @trammcpd
Blog Post – Transcript – Post Chat Summary
Continue reading “#OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD)”
Please find the transcript for the ICF talk from the 10th September below – or at Healthcare Hashtags
You can find Simon’s introduction to the chat here – thanks to him for hosting the chat. I’ve just been informed #anzotalk are going to run a talk on the topic too.
| OTalk_Occhat | #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI | |
| kirstyes | Discussion echoing our What Is Evidence #OTalk from a few weeks ago #SWAHPRN Hierarchy – one example http://t.co/7aXk8lJ2Wu | |
| JulieHughes2013 | RT @kirstyes: Discussion echoing our What Is Evidence #OTalk from a few weeks ago #SWAHPRN Hierarchy – one example http://t.co/7aXk8lJ2Wu | |
| Helen_otuk | RT @kirstyes: Discussion echoing our What Is Evidence #OTalk from a few weeks ago #SWAHPRN Hierarchy – one example http://t.co/7aXk8lJ2Wu | |
| Helen_otuk | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI | |
| YappGuru | Like us on Facebook for occupational and physical therapy app news! http://t.co/Esce6kTEt5 #OTPeeps #OTalk #DPTStudent #PhysicalTherapy | |
| BillWongOT | In my hand therapy placement, the ICD-9 is used as references for billing purposes. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | I think there’s a benefit in using ICF in our practice. However, it’s important to gauge where every1 else is at at ur work setting. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | If we want to go beyond our workplace, we should do conference presentations on such topics! #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | “#OTalk #OTalk2US” is the team name for one of my #OT fantasy football league teams. | |
| TherapistOT | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI | |
| otstudent2 | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI | |
| Sibellgul | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI | |
| BAOTCOT | Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| KellyOT | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| Bird20116 | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| RigHealthcare | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| amycupcakeface | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| TRAMMCPD | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| TherapistOT | Bloomin eck it’s chilly! Warm yourselves up this evening with a heated debate about ICF #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @Bethanhc ICF model #otalk tonight if you were still interested. | |
| COTSSTO | #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/yszJFJLmAD via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| BAOTNYRegion | Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| emerging2OT | RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| Manar426 | RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| elaineahpmh | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| pbarrosoto | RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| morrisKOT | RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat | |
| OTalk_Occhat | 40 minutes until we #otalk about the ICF. | |
| GillyGorry | sorry to miss #otalk tonight. early night nursing a migraine for me. hope it goes well 🙂 | |
| kirstyes | #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with our ICF chat | |
| OTalk_Occhat | RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o… | |
| BoothRach | RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o… | |
| BoothRach | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| MHNurseChat | RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o… | |
| TherapistOT | Just finishing the washing up then will be following @kirstyes sensible advice in preparation for #otalk | |
| _beckyOT | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| TherapistOT | RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o… | |
| elaineahpmh | RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o… | |
| elaineahpmh | @jeanahpm hope u enjoy #OTalk I need to miss it tonight but will follow later tomorrow, great group of folk get involved @OTalk_Occhat | |
| kirstyes | Hi all at #OTalk I need to dash at 9 for a date with an Iron Man 3! Sadly not a man like @Dai2584 that irons though!! | |
| kirstyes | I will be supporting @TherapistOT who is hosting tonight’s #OTalk on ICF until then though | |
| TherapistOT | #OTalk looking forward to hearing your views on ICF , it’s one of my key reasoning tools | |
| Symbolic_Life | Does anyone know what site or app you can use for easier visuals of hash tag talks such as #OTalk please? | |
| TherapistOT | #OTalk & I think it was a revolutionary move for the WHO & let them catch up with our theory 🙂 | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @Helen_otuk: My personal #OTalk Journal (media) Club Week 1 target: Read article 3 times! http://t.co/0d6TgxFfay | |
| kirstyes | RT @TherapistOT: #OTalk looking forward to hearing your views on ICF , it’s one of my key reasoning tools | |
| BillWongOT | Sure missed interacting live with everyone. Going pseudo live again for this #otalk | |
| Maria_Markland | I’ve never looked into ICF, or (as an OT student) used it. But I’ve had a read of the info provided and look forward to #OTalk views on it! | |
| kirstyes | @TherapistOT It wasnt something I was familiar with before going back into the academic setting. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Symbolic_Life: Does anyone know what site or app you can use for easier visuals of hash tag talks such as #OTalk please? | |
| TherapistOT | @BillWongOT good to have you Bill ! I get the feeling that US uses ICF differently to the UK #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Maria_Markland yeah I don’t think many departments have got into it , which is a shame #otalk | |
| clissa89 | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| BillWongOT | I was exposed to the ICF when I started as an OT student in 2009. 1/2 #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | I know alittle of ICF but I’ve alot to learn #OTalk | |
| clissa89 | @Symbolic_Life do you mean eg Tweetchat? that’s what I use #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | Really interested in the reflection about an initial skepticism. Do you think ICF has a tendency to be a marmite (love/hate) model? #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | I personally thought it was introduced too early in my OT education- barely knew what OT was at the time. 2/2 #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @TherapistOT ICF was revolutionary: classified more than impairment, changed word “handicap” and included environment. #OTalk | |
| TherapistOT | @kirstyes same I 1st engaged with it in Sweden & Holland & it’s used in US , but looks more reductionist there #otalk | |
| OTalk_Occhat | @Bethanhc great we are on #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR | |
| Maria_Markland | @TherapistOT The concept of moving away from disability as a specific condition and seeing it along a spectrum of health seems good. #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @clissa89 is that what it is? Is it a app or a website please? #OTalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Bethanhc was the complex and expansive definition of environment that hooked me I just love that it includes domesticated animals! #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @TherapistOT some of us would have liked more revolution though #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | .@TherapistOT can you give an example of a reductionist use? #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @Bethanhc: @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR | |
| kilner100 | RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da | |
| Bethanhc | ICF is “classification of HEALTH and HEALTH -related domains”– not necessarily relevant to the lived experience of disability. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | I think how the ICF is introduced at school can play a role in whether we love or hate it. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | I personally think ICF has a place. However, at least from what I experienced in the US, it is not as popular. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | It has major shortcoming in subjective experience of meaning and autonomy (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk | |
| Maria_Markland | RT @TherapistOT: @Bethanhc was the complex and expansive definition of environment that hooked me I just love that it includes domesticate… | |
| TherapistOT | @BillWongOT took me a lot of pondering & anxiety to feel I understood how it could help me I see it as a constantly changing dynamic #otalk | |
| KarenIvey | #OTalk aggh on a train tweets won’t send | |
| kirstyes | RT @BillWongOT: I personally thought it was introduced too early in my OT education- barely knew what OT was at the time. 2/2 #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Bethanhc: @TherapistOT ICF was revolutionary: classified more than impairment, changed word “handicap” and included environment. #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Bethanhc: @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR | |
| Bethanhc | @kirstyes Don’t think it’s a love-hate thing. I think it has been misapplied and over generalised. #OTalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | My depiction-it maybe allows the consideration of some factors of disability supporting acknowledgement in other professions #OTalk | |
| Bethanhc | I am not anti-ICF. It has a place. It should be used in its right place, not for everything. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @Bethanhc A case of people using ‘out of the box’ without integrating with other aspects of reasoning maybe? #otalk | |
| jm78uk | Using PEOP & ICF is a wonderful combination for teaching and learning for foundational knowledge about the impact of health/illness. #otalk | |
| Maria_Markland | @Bethanhc What do you think its right place is? #otalk | |
| jeanahpm | @Bethanhc #otalk maybe useful if added sense of coherence? | |
| kilner100 | RT @Symbolic_Life: ICF allows the consideration of some factors of disability supporting acknowledgement in other professions #OTalk | |
| KarenIvey | The best thing about the ICF is it enables you to speak across professional boundaries and be understood #OTalk | |
| Bethanhc | @kirstyes Yes and misunderstanding its HEALTH focus. #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Bethanhc: It has major shortcoming in subjective experience of meaning and autonomy (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @KarenIvey Please send tweets when you can – we won’t be collating for 24 hours #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @jm78uk: Using PEOP & ICF is a wonderful combination for teaching and learning for foundational knowledge about the impact of health/ill… | |
| kilner100 | Hi guys, just catching up with #otalk. We’ve had teaching on ICF but not in practice. Love to hear about applications and any tools | |
| Bethanhc | @jm78uk Agree, it is useful re impact of illness. Not the same as disability and is understandably less popular in disability world. #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | .@jm78uk I’d like to hear more about integrating these two aspects. #OTalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | Im wondering does this support the OT role in health care? Eg advocating the dynamic relationship of components and disability? #OTalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Bethanhc agree its the central dynamic transaction tha I really like but its symmetry can beguile me into thinking balance is a goal #otalk | |
| Sibellgul | How and where would you apply it? @Bethanhc @kirstyes #OTalk | |
| Bethanhc | @KarenIvey Agree. Also helps hugely with research and outcome measurement of health interventions. #OTalk | |
| kilner100 | @Symbolic_Life plus taking emphasis off impairment and onto aspects of the environment etc #SocialModel #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | @jeanahpm couldn’t really say because it is not quite obviously mentioned a lot at my place of work now. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @Symbolic_Life When it first came out OTs were embracing it due to participation element. Now there is more critique. #OTalk | |
| jm78uk | @Bethanhc agree but it is a classification system. Depends whether you feel a classification system has a place at all! #OTalk | |
| Dai2584 | Hi everyone. I have no really experience of this or how its used in practice to be honest #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | I do think ICF is integrated in US OT practice… Some are more obvious than others. #otalk | |
| jm78uk | @Bethanhc as well as your philosophical perspective! #OTalk | |
| jeanahpm | @KarenIvey #otalk yes fully agree break down prof barriers | |
| BillWongOT | In my hand therapy placement, it is used as a criteria to justify a client to be eligible for services for billing purposes. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | What strategies have people used to integrate ICF into their services? #otalk (If you have of course) | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR | |
| BillWongOT | @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT I like that too. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @Sibellgul @kirstyes research using as outcome measure; means of assessing impact of health on individual in cross-professional lang #OTalk | |
| TherapistOT | RT @KarenIvey: The best thing about the ICF is it enables you to speak across professional boundaries and be understood #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Bethanhc: @Sibellgul @kirstyes research using as outcome measure; means of assessing impact of health on individual in cross-profession… | |
| BillWongOT | @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT I know autism is seen as a spectrum in terms of functioning levels. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @jm78uk Couldn’t agree more! Health statisticians may need it… OTS? #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Sibellgul @Bethanhc @kirstyes I use in my initial assessment to build a formulation of what happening to the individual #otalk | |
| kilner100 | @KarenIvey @Bethanhc how much are other professions using it in UK services? #otalk can we learn from them? | |
| BillWongOT | @KarenIvey agreed! #otalk it is like universal language that health professionals can understand. Easy for billing too. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | I think there’s a benefit in using ICF in our practice. However, it’s important to gauge where every1 else is at at ur work setting. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | ICF measures disability. I don’t want to be measured, thanks. I want to have equal rights, equal access and meaningful occupations. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | If it’s strategies, I would say discussing with you all on #otalk will help me do this more confidently in my practice at my peds clinic. | |
| BillWongOT | @TherapistOT I am sorta live, but not really… Eating lunch at my work… Before getting ready for my kiddo in 30 something minutes. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @jm78uk: @Bethanhc agree but it is a classification system. Depends whether you feel a classification system has a place at all! #OTalk | |
| Bethanhc | @TherapistOT @Sibellgul @kirstyes Lots of evidence highlighting its use as an outcome measure is helpful. #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: @Symbolic_Life When it first came out OTs were embracing it due to participation element. Now there is more critique. #OTalk | |
| kilner100 | RT @Bethanhc: ICF measures disability. I don’t want to be measured, thanks. I want to have equal rights, equal access and meaningful occupa… | |
| TherapistOT | @jeanahpm @BillWongOT I think most course cover it 🙂 but because its not really adopted in practice it is often seen as irrelevant #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @Bethanhc I think I’m in need to search the critique to create a sound opinion for my learning 🙂 #otalk | |
| jm78uk | @Bethanhc now we are talking about OT! #OTalk | |
| Maria_Markland | @TherapistOT I can see how it would be useful for this, as you said in your artilce, as an initial template for considering all areas #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @Bethanhc @TherapistOT @Sibellgul Is it sensitive enough to capture changes made by OT intervention in all settings? #OTalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Dai2584 I don’t think its widely used at all …like a lot theory!! #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Bethanhc: ICF measures disability. I don’t want to be measured, thanks. I want to have equal rights, equal access and meaningful occupa… | |
| Maria_Markland | @Symbolic_Life @Bethanhc Me too Michelle! But this chat is a good start! 🙂 #OTalk | |
| kilner100 | @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT yes I thought that sounded useful, but then a proper OT model wld do that and include #occupation #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @jm78uk Yet OTs (who think they know about disability) are obsessed with it! Nothing to do with real-life disability. #OTalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | Does our models incorporate principles of ICF? I know the AUSTOMS assessments do #OTalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @kilner100: @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT yes I thought that sounded useful, but then a proper OT model wld do that and include #occupati… | |
| Symbolic_Life | @Maria_Markland @Bethanhc I agree 🙂 #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | @jm78uk @Bethanhc I utilise it from a social constructionist perspective & also like to draw on a Deleuzian perspective! #otalk | |
| kilner100 | @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT is the main benefit in practice, given the critiques, that it uses language others understand? #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @Maria_Markland @Symbolic_Life Around 2001 – 2005 there were a whole rake of articles in AJOT, beginning with positive ones. #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Maria_Markland: @Symbolic_Life @Bethanhc Me too Michelle! But this chat is a good start! 🙂 #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | When I discuss the term occupation in other languages, I use a round about way to do it so that people can understand. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Symbolic_Life: Does our models incorporate principles of ICF? I know the AUSTOMS assessments do #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | In my setting, I have to think of using the term occupation in Cantonese and Mandarin, too. #welcomechallenge #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | A challenge for me to use ICF for my practice is my own knowledge in it. It’s not as second nature as MOHO or PEO. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: @Maria_Markland @Symbolic_Life Around 2001 – 2005 there were a whole rake of articles in AJOT, beginning with positive ones. … | |
| kirstyes | @TherapistOT @jm78uk @Bethanhc and a Deleuzian perspective is?? #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | @BillWongOT that is what I seemed to gather from reports of US utilisation #otalk | |
| jm78uk | Useful to view the structure &function domains as knowledge. Then client narratives should be about activity, participation & enviro #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Symbolic_Life: Does our models incorporate principles of ICF? I know the AUSTOMS assessments do #OTalk | |
| Bethanhc | @Symbolic_Life OT models focus on occupation: ICF measures impact of health in terms of “activity” and “participation. Different #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes I think PEO and Moho do. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @BillWongOT Nor should it be! You are an OT not a health researcher!! #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @BillWongOT sorry Bill, not sure which tweet this is referring to #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @jm78uk Trouble is that ICF forgets about narratives and lived experience… #OTalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @Bethanhc are the definitions of activity and participation specified? Do you not feel the models have a relation to its principles? #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @jm78uk: Useful to view the structure &function domains as knowledge. Then client narratives should be about activity, participation & … | |
| Bethanhc | ICF doesn’t reflect diversity of experience in participation for one individual (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | @kirstyes @jm78uk @Bethanhc read Capitalism & Schizophrenia pt1 & especially pt2 :1000 Plateaus it will blow your mind 🙂 #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | What I mean by that is- I will present what occupation means first in these languages. Then, I will introduce the term. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | In my example, I think being aware of the context of how we may introduce the term occupation is key. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @Bethanhc I personally didn’t like how the ICF was introduced as an FYI item, though, in my OT education. #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @BillWongOT to advocation and role yes! #otalk | |
| kirstyes | .@Bethanhc @jm78uk Surely this is where clinical application comes in and where we as therapists should fill the substantial gaps #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | @kirstyes the question you posted a few minutes ago. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | Participation “linked to individual circumstances rather than grounded in social and political inclusion” (Barnes & Mercer 2004) #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: ICF doesn’t reflect diversity of experience in participation for one individual (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk | |
| kirstyes | .@TherapistOT @jm78uk @Bethanhc Not sure my mind can cope with being more blown at the moment. I will bookmark the tweet for later #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @Bethanhc: Participation “linked to individual circumstances rather than grounded in social and political inclusion” (Barnes & Mercer 2… | |
| TherapistOT | @kirstyes @Bethanhc @jm78uk yes I see it as a flawed tool but aren’t they all #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @Bethanhc By diversity of experience here do you mean variations in participation, different meanings and levels based on context? #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | Hard to be at lunch and be on the lookout for time to resume work and participate at #otalk at the same time. Thank goodness to pre-tweets! | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: Participation “linked to individual circumstances rather than grounded in social and political inclusion” (Barnes & Mercer 2… | |
| Bethanhc | @Symbolic_Life very clearly defined. All about impact of illness on a list of “activities” and domains of “participation” #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @BillWongOT I’ve posted a few Bill sorry this isn’t linking back to them in my app. Not to worry. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | The reason we have to set good examples to placement students is because we have power to influence students as they are learning. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | Not only we have to demonstrate to our clients/families, but also to placement students! #otalk 2/2 | |
| BillWongOT | I think as professionals, we have to set examples to be smart consumers of information (ESP. Regarding changes/new dev.) 1/2 #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @TherapistOT @Bethanhc @jm78uk The more look at them the more I think yes. Why it’s so important to develop critical analysis skills #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: @Symbolic_Life very clearly defined. All about impact of illness on a list of “activities” and domains of “participation” #O… | |
| TherapistOT | @Bethanhc @jm78uk like the acknowledgement of constant dynamism & flux inlife,a tool that can help to extract me from my assumptions #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @Bethanhc ok so if im on the right line.. It’s not informing occupation in accordance with performance. #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @kirstyes & subjective meaning and interpretation. Assumes that participation is stable for an individual Paper is very good – AJOT #OTalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @Bethanhc: @kirstyes & subjective meaning and interpretation. Assumes that participation is stable for an individual Paper is very good … | |
| Sibellgul | Would have been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @Bethanhc#OTalk | |
| PatriciaRegan | Learned ICF doing a multidisciplinary MSc in Disability Studies, useful in academic discussion but OT models used at work#OTalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life different but with similarities 🙂 #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: @kirstyes & subjective meaning and interpretation. Assumes that participation is stable for an individual Paper is very good … | |
| Bethanhc | ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I think #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | RT @kirstyes: @TherapistOT @Bethanhc @jm78uk The more look at them the more I think yes. Why it’s so important to develop critical analysis… | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @Bethanhc: ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I th… | |
| Bethanhc | Some disability activists (eg Pfeiffer) called for its abolition as it “does not conform to the minority group paradigm” #otalk | |
| danbrunetti | Forgotten about #otalk watching #greatbritishbakeoff …it’s an occupation! | |
| kilner100 | @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life oops! #otalk is icf focus on impact of illness on participation rather than of part’n on health. #ot #interesting | |
| Sibellgul | Would’ve been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @Bethanhc #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I th… | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Bethanhc: Some disability activists (eg Pfeiffer) called for its abolition as it “does not conform to the minority group paradigm” #ot… | |
| BillWongOT | In services/journal clubs are helpful because it will be good to hear everyone’s opinions about impending changes. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | Another thing that will be helpful- schedule in-services and/or journal clubs at our workplace. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @Bethanhc Do you have rough title – I’m trying to find it to provide link #otalk – thanks | |
| Sibellgul | RT @Bethanhc: ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I th… | |
| Bethanhc | @Symbolic_Life It’s not about occupation. Participation is pc word for “handicap”, which was in the ICIDH, upon which ICF is based #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @Sibellgul: Would’ve been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @… | |
| TherapistOT | @kirstyes @Bethanhc @jm78uk emptiness of the ICF transaction can be inhabited by the unique detail of the person:support analysis #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | RT @Sibellgul: Would’ve been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @… | |
| Bethanhc | @kilner100 @Symbolic_Life Yes! about how illness and the environment can restrict “participation” #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | Ten minute warning for #otalk – @TherapistOT Any final questions you’d like to get people discussing? | |
| TherapistOT | @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life that’s not how the WHO define it #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @Bethanhc I think we got our wires crossed but I now understand, thank you #otalk | |
| Bethanhc | @kirstyes Critical reflection of impact of the environment in ICF or something like that – can look it up and DM. #OTalk | |
| kilner100 | @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life ouch! That puts a different spin on it. Need to read the detail not assume the words mean the same #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | If we want to go beyond our workplace, we should do conference presentations on such topics! #otalk | |
| jm78uk | Thanks for the chat! I need to dash. #otalk | |
| TherapistOT | @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life you can use the mechanism without diagnosis, all the components are in a transaction equally weighted #otalk | |
| kilner100 | @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life is there a danger then that professions use the same words in icf but mean different things? #otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | Thanks for the chat was great I’ve lots to think about / learn. #OTalk | |
| PatriciaRegan | @BillWongOT I agree, but I find ICF in academic discussion, OT models in use in all workplaces I’ve been in #OTalk | |
| kilner100 | RT @danbrunetti: Forgotten about #otalk watching #greatbritishbakeoff …it’s an occupation! Trying to do both. #occupationalBalance | |
| Symbolic_Life | @kilner100 @Bethanhc impacting advocating OT meaning and work roles! #otalk | |
| PatriciaRegan | @kilner100 @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life Definitely, I learned ICF in multidisciplinary setting, was open to interpretation #OTalk | |
| BillWongOT | Another take home point is- for those of us who are placement educators, setting good examples is vital, ESP. Regarding changes #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | My take home point is- ICF has its place in OT. I think educators play very important role in introducing it to students. #otalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @kilner100: @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life ouch! That puts a different spin on it. Need to read the detail not assume the words mean the same … | |
| Symbolic_Life | RT @Bethanhc: Some disability activists (eg Pfeiffer) called for its abolition as it “does not conform to the minority group paradigm” #ot… | |
| kirstyes | @kilner100 @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life Yes very important to make sure we are all speaking the same language-glossary first thing to see #otalk | |
| kilner100 | @Bethanhc @kirstyes wld welcome the ref. Sounds useful #otalk. Lots to think about, thanks for the chat! | |
| kirstyes | @jm78uk Thanks so much for your ‘participation’ #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | RT @TherapistOT: @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life you can use the mechanism without diagnosis, all the components are in a transaction equally wei… | |
| Sibellgul | Well said. But in our day to day practice our vision might get blurred and narrow our practice stale @jm78uk @TherapistOT @kirstyes #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @kilner100 @Bethanhc I’ve tweeted it #OTalk | |
| PatriciaRegan | @Sibellgul I agree #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | Ok folks – we are out of #otalk time and I need to head off too. Thanks @TherapistOT for hosting and to everyone for a good variety of views | |
| Sibellgul | RT @TherapistOT: #OTalk & I think it was a revolutionary move for the WHO & let them catch up with our theory 🙂 | |
| kirstyes | So next week I believe is @pd2ot and looking at When OT Goes Wrong!! #otalk – Could be good fun. Welcome service user views for this one. | |
| PatriciaRegan | @TherapistOT ICF could do with updating alright, but was on the right track:) #OTalk thanks for hosting | |
| pd2ot | @kirstyes I am indeed! I’ll create a bit of a blog post tomorrow to prompt thinking on the subject #OTalk | |
| Maria_Markland | @kirstyes @TherapistOT Thanks all! Enjoyed hearing your different views on the use/possible manner of use of ICF & its r/ship to OT #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @Ononjamcon Hi I’ve not used it clinically. Can be used as outcome measure. Take a look at #otalk tweets for last hour for more info | |
| Bird20116 | RT @jm78uk: Useful to view the structure &function domains as knowledge. Then client narratives should be about activity, participation & … | |
| Sibellgul | It doesn’t claim that. it enables me to see the ‘environment’ as for being dynamic and adaptable @TherapistO @Bethanhc @jm78uk #OTalk | |
| kirstyes | @pd2ot great. Will @IamCarrieeeeee be joining us? #otalk | |
| kirstyes | @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT thanks Maria. It’s something that I need to read about more too. #otalk | |
| Maria_Markland | @kirstyes @pd2ot Great topic! Sad to miss it! I’m busy assisting with an anxiety management group for placement. Will join in after #OTalk | |
| pd2ot | @Maria_Markland we’d love to have your views on the blog (when it’s done!) #Otalk @kirstyes | |
| kirstyes | @Ononjamcon bless you. I’ll post the transcript on the blog in the next couple of days. #otalk | |
| Maria_Markland | @pd2ot @kirstyes Will do! It’s going to be great from a student perspective to hear about OT going wrong and learning from it! #otalk | |
| Maria_Markland | RT @pd2ot: @Maria_Markland we’d love to have your views on the blog (when it’s done!) #Otalk @kirstyes | |
| morrisKOT | @Bethanhc @TherapistOT sorry i missed it! #Otalk | |
| Symbolic_Life | @itsmefrarah if can be confusing I’m still learning. Last night chat was rather insightful though. #otalk | |
| BillWongOT | @Maria_Markland or do what I have been doing- I pre-tweet the night before. You can have them show up at #otalk time. | |
| Dalton44x62 | @Mr_SoFar_Gone http://t.co/LmOxvxoTz8 | |
| KarenIvey | @DrWMB wrote a competency document 10 years ago using the ICF it’s still relevant today so it stands the test of time as well #OTalk | |
| DrWMB | “@KarenIvey: @DrWMB wrote a competency document 10 years ago using the ICF – still relevant today #OTalk†thanks Karen |