Journal [Media] Club
Date: 03/12/2013 Host: @becci_haigh_ot
Continue reading “#OTalk Journal (Media) Club – 3rd December 2013.”
Author: Helen OTUK
Occupational Therapist. Explorer of social media for professional development. Enjoy discussing all aspects of Occupational Therapy & Professional Development. #OTalk Team. #OTGeek
OT24Vx – Presentions and Links
Happy Birthday #OTalk.
Well doesn’t time fly when you are having fun. Who would have guessed that #OTalk is 2 years old today!
Please share with us your favourite memory of #OTalk from the past two years.
Taking #OTalk Forward – OTNews Article October 2013.
Thought we would share the submission article which was published in OTNews October 2013.
Thank you to the wonderful OTalk Community. You are fab, looking forward to another great year.
Taking #OTalk Forward
Since November 2012, when OTNews first reported on the #OTalk community (OTN 2012), our online community of practice has gone from strength to strength. For example the last ten months have seen the #OTalk hashtag generating 14,575,845 impressions and 10,515 tweets from 718 participants.
The benefits of engaging and developing a community of practice have been highlighted across a range of publications and events, including Patients First and Foremost (DOH 2013) which cited #OTalk alongside #WeNurses as Actions for Cultural Change. The BAOT Eastern Regional Group invited the #OTalk team to present about professionalism online and to run a social media surgery at their study day in May 2013. May also saw Elaine Hunter guest host an #OTalk in preparation for her Elizabeth Casson Memorial Lecture (Hunter 2013a).
We were delighted to have our poster exploring the development of online communities of practice (OTalk 2013a) accepted for the 2013 COT conference. This was only overshadowed by being cited by Elaine Hunter during the Elizabeth Casson Memorial Lecture (Hunter 2013b) in which Elaine discusses transformational leadership and refers to her experience of #OTalk as a real world practice example.
The #OTalk team always strive to remain responsive to the community’s wishes, which we believe will ensure that #OTalk is constantly developing and moving forward. This has resulted in recent changes with the hashtags previously used, #OTalk and #Occhat, now being combined and #OTalk used every week. This was implemented to simplify things for new members, however there is still a commitment to continuing discussions focused on aspects of occupational science (which were previously held using #occhat).
Another exciting development has been the introduction of a Journal (Media) Club, the format of which has been decided based upon a survey of the #OTalk community. The launch event on 3rd September 2013 received an enthusiastic response from the community (OTalk 2013b). The Journal (Media) Club will provide a mixture of topics, selected and hosted by the community. We are astounded to report we already have hosts confirmed until August 2014! A twitter chat will be held the first Tuesday of each month using the #OTalk hashtag from 8-9pm. However, a new development is for the discussion to have started via the blog comments feature for the preceding month. Thus providing the opportunity to engage at any time and not being limited to 140 characters, or familiarity with twitter. The tweet chat will be used to sum up discussions and introduce the next topic.
As usual, the #OTalk team are happy to support existing or new members of the community with all aspects of engagement. Please tweet us @OTalk_Occhat, or individually if you prefer: @Helen_OTUK, @GillyGorry, @kirstyes, @Clissa89 or @Claireot.
References:
DOH (2013) Patients First and Foremost: The Initial Government Response to the Report of The Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust Public Inquiry, Department of Health, London.
Hunter EP (2013a) Making the invisible visible (blog). Available at www.elaineahpmh.wordpress.com. Accessed 08.09.2013.
Hunter EP (2013b) The Elizabeth Casson Memorial Lecture 2013: Transformational leadership in occupational therapy – delivering change through conversations. British Journal of Occupational Therapy 76(8), 346-354.
OTalk (2013a) Levelling the Playing Field: Developing Online Communities of Practice (blog). http://otalkocchats.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/cot-poster-2013-otalkontour/ OTalk. Accessed 08.09.2013.
OTalk (2013b) Journal (Media) Club Launch (blog). http://otalkocchats.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/otalk-3rd-september-2013-journal-media-club-launch/ OTalk. Accessed 08.09.2013.
OTNews (2012) Talking the #OTalk. OTNews, 20(11), 42.
Transcript – #OTalk – 15th October 2013 – Combat Stress
What a busy and interesting chat we had yesterday evening. Thank you to Karen Williams-Miles @Richardsblister for hosting the discussion. Below is information and transcript from healthcare hashtags:
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| BillWongOT |
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Hello everyone. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Please be mindful of your code of ethics / confidentiality and professionalism as we kick off this evenings #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am not a natural tweeter so please be patient with my answers….but i do type quickly! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Hi Bill, we meet again! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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Hi everyone! Tweeting from a noisy pub tonight, with an ice cold lemonade in hand and large candle in front of me. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk would like to say a big hello and thank you to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening. OT and veterans with PTSD. Say hi to Karen. |
| Richardsblister |
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Ok, I am ready this end, if I go eek, its because of the spider in the room! my real room! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 no change there then Clarissa xx #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Good Evening #OTalk looking forward to an interesting chat….. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister take care…. #OTalk those spider are leggy! |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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Hello All, I’m extremely interested in today’s topic and hope to learn from your collective wisdom! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Good evening all #otalk looking forward to tonight’s chat about OT and veterans with PTSD… |
| Richardsblister |
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Hi to all, fire away when you are ready – please excuse the pun #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Has everyone seen Karen’s post? http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL #OTalk |
| Keeper85 |
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#otalk hi all! I’m awake!! |
| BillWongOT |
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My only significant experiences with veterans were when I was worshipping with them at my church. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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We will nitter natter fir a few mins while you all have a chance to read over then ask Karen any questions you have…. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister From a brief look at the website, I’m thinking this isn’t the kind of work a new graduate could do..? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Great to see you at #otalk @Keeper85 |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@MissHeldi hello Heldi great to have you join us. #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 enjoy the lemonade…. ear plugs? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: While you are all waiting for kick off take a look at http://t.co/DQqi8slkMS #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@_beckyOT good evening Becky. #OTalk |
| MaryBoothOT |
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Here sorry later #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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seems to be a server issue this on let me refresh #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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Hello everyone #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JuliaHelenOT glad you find the topic of interest. #otalk |
| OTprocess |
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@richardsblister what are common occupational performance issues for your clients?#Otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister that’s encouraging (MOD work appears to require band 6/7) #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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Here sorry I’m late #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@tabbycats4 @afrightfulfiend @shhhsharn @SophAlexanderOT @LithiumLibGirl no spoilers please. 😦 Ive had to choose btwn #gbbo & #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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Does military OT’s in the UK have to go through specific trainings/education? I know the US has an OTD program 4 army OT’s. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Don’t let being newly qualified put you off applying to work with veterans, passion over-rules experience in my humble opinion #OTalk |
| mksiddiqee |
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RT @Dai2584: Hello everyone #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Keeper85 yay for the early bird! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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are you all still here? #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Dai2584 evening David. #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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Perhaps a bit of obvious Q @RichardsBlister, but how does your day-to-day work differ from a CBT therapist’s? #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister yes we are #OTalk are you? |
| CroftVictoria |
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Watching the chat from Northern Ireland #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Fascinating to follow @armyOTguy – interesting to see his varied role with veterans #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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I visited Combat Stress, and found the atmosphere very welcoming and calming. Also impressed by resources 🙂 #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now and future #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@CroftVictoria great to have you join us from over the water #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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joining you a little later…bedtime routine interfering again! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Am I right in thinking that historically veterans have been accused of being ‘weak’ if they disclose any mental health difficulties? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk yes helen, this just has to be refreshed now and then #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| danielleb_90 |
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@OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi I saw PTSD more in community rather than in an acute setting. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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#otalk In Wales if vets just have PTSD they go to primary MH veterans service. If they have SMI also they will come to the CMHT. rest of UK? |
| Richardsblister |
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@bobcollinsOT Yes bob, one of the reasons they delay in getting help, but this is getting less and less thank goodness #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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many veteran organisations in my local area don’t have ahp as part of team…seems a big miss to me #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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RT @MissHeldi: Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Vets come to combat stress from all over UK, we deliver a unique inpatient service with amazingly positive results #OTalk |
| BillWongOT |
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What are the common assessments you have used for this population? #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@peapodicus yes what a missed opportunity! seems obvious that active duty could disrupt/impact on occupation? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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That is a real shame! @peapodicus #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Currently OSA and MOHOST – only because they currently fit, but maybe in the future recovery star, but need our own #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Dai2584 in the northeast Darlington mh health hospital has the contract for MOD they have their own ward, #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi how did you make sense of this difference? (I’ve seen plenty of non-combat PTSD in inpatient) #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister @BillWongOT I wonder if there will be a veteran-specific version of the Recovery Star, as the Star grows #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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I have met vets in CMHT and MH In-patient unit. Combat Stress services involved #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 not to mention life changing physical and mental experiences…not sure how team make up was decided #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister my friends who are veterans have spoken about very real struggles re-adjusting to “civvy street” #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria we do refer back out into the community, if we can! many are successful once we have cleared the pathway #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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What is the OSA? @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 they will clarissa – communication between civvies and veterans is different, they think very black and white #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@BoothRach #otalk in wales we have a primary care All wales service, 8 session cbt type thing or normal MH service. no vet rehab/ wards |
| Richardsblister |
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@_beckyOT @BillWongOT Occupational Self Assessment – based on MOHO #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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do combat stress or similar employ ahps elsewhere in UK? #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@_beckyOT @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #otalk occupational self assessment |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Seen PTSD symptoms in non-combat but unless the ind is v suicidal, usually no admission. |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorders. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus we have 3 locations, Scotland, Leatherhead in Surrey and Shropshire #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: @BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@peapodicus try to remember #OTalk so all can see your tweets. |
| Richardsblister |
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The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: was discussing this today with friend, her relative thought if he admitted it then would ruin chance of promotion… |
| BillWongOT |
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This is another app I have come across on PTSD. https://t.co/zoIqh0qQrB #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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When I visited Combat Stress, noticed how familiar @RichardsBlister was with organisational culture/language – important! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this issue too #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volition |
| ivan_goma |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this is… |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister it does help to have knowledge of the culture, you gain credibility if you “get it” #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister all have ot? #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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I am seeing that as combat PTSD isn’t often seen in inpt, staff struggles to differentiate between aggression/distress sources. #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volit… |
| Dai2584 |
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RT @BillWongOT: This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@clissa89 @Richardsblister I’ve family members in RAF and can’t understand a word they are talking about when they get onto work! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 part of my role is to show them they do still have those skills by using meaningful occupation as a guide #OTalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Yes, I think Scotland is our closest location. @Richardsblister Can Police Officers go there too? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria No victoria, on ex service personnel – Hollybush House in Ayrshire covers scotland #OTalk |
| danielleb_90 |
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RT @MissHeldi: @clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipola… |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi THe aggression label is really just that, with our programme many learn how to manage this more effectively #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister what kind input do you get from the MOD? #otalk |
| pluminmouth |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: @pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk.” @mrssculduggery , FYI 🙂 |
| BillWongOT |
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This is relevant for today’s #otalk http://t.co/Q548Cw3w8V |
| Richardsblister |
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There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats really (grin) #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats … |
| BoothRach |
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@MissHeldi i guess thats why there should be specialist wards for MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT ~We work alongside the MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @MissHeldi Yes, I started life on acute and I would be given the vets because i could communicate with them #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: old fashioned and unhelpful. any opportunity to do work directly with army, mental wellbeing/recovery etc? |
| Dai2584 |
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@MissHeldi #otalk we have that problem in prison i.e. aggression/ anxiety where then question PTSD with Vets |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I so wish, but they are probably too busy defending our freedom to worry about what may happen to them #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus not just caution for blocking promotion. Self-ID as having #PTSD of any sort can endanger employment #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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aggression comes from their training to react, which is how we explain it to them. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat ha…hmm yes #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I find talking to the employers really helps them understand and to put things in place #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did?… |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk Ive still got the self control in that regard but Ive lost my aggression. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am talking more to police, asking them to find out if the person they have in custody is a vet..and then to ascertain if poss ptsd #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat yes and of course many other areas of life and function #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Dai2584 would you say that is an advantage to retain the self control? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 a large part of our cohorts also report similar – we talk about how to put coping mechanisms in place #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister On the other hand, I’ve met some of the most lovely characters with many talents, whether it’s cooking or art. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat #otalk so possibly more senior ranking soldiers masking trauma whilst dealing with more trauma.. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, brilliant workers #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@rebexxa dont forget you #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister Do you have a lot of contact with other services like police etc? Does this help support vets? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat senior ranks do suffer, but not so many #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk where ever I can, with who ever I can, I cannot spread the word enough, they cannot help getting ptsd, its a process fail #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk the vets in prison I work with, I try and remind them on self control. talk about shared experiance |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 I find that getting them to assess the situation, will they still be angry about this in 6 months, they normally laugh…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat why do you think that is #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk I agree it’s one of the issues: communication. There’s also lack of general awareness re PTSD. |
| Dai2584 |
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@Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister #OTalk Could not agree more! |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, br… |
| Helen_otuk |
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Yay for OT! RT @Dai2584: @Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @Helen_otuk I have said to 3 of my veterans, they would make great OT’s, one has taken me up on the offer! #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 Maybe you could get David to talk to them too? #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @BoothRach PTSD has been reclassified – amygdala does not talk to hippocampus…. #OTalk |
| Rossifumiuk |
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#OTalk The senior rank and PTSD is an interesting subject that links into resilience. Why do some get PTSD and others do not. Its facinating |
| rebexxa |
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#otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of humour. |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh if you are there, you can chip in!!! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat I hear clients tell me reactions vary between over-sympathy and confusion on how to respond #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JulieHughes2013 good evening Julie. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh is my trusted colleague and confident folks pls make him welcome #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @rebexxa: #otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of … |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Rossifumiuk Hi David, great to have you with us #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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yay RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| BoothRach |
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RT @JulieHughes2013: hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @rebexxa @BoothRach it is the dark humour that keeps them going – I also have that dark humour, its inherited lol #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @JulieHughes2013 I think the jury is still out on that one, you need to process trauma, properly…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister hi david #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I think that ‘dark’ humour is present in many different ‘walks of life’ not jsut vets? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you have processed #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk i guess many veterans particularly may feel a civilian couldn’t understand? |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk probably, some surgeons I know also have that humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat they do initially, but we show them that they can with effective communication #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat more senior …more resilience? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Most soliders ok with civvies. As long as you are good at what u do. |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required… |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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“@rebexxa: @Richardsblister @BoothRach iv not encounterd the humour anywhere else” #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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I can’t speak for David, but I have never had a problem with our veterans as far as getting along is concerned. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk that would rule me our fascinating area of work |
| Helen_otuk |
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Top tip! RT @Richardsblister: @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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@Richardsblister #Otalk I like this concept of processing and recalling, or not, difficult sensations. |
| bobcollinsOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you hav… |
| Richardsblister |
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When a friend of mine was paralysed after an rta, I said that it was pointless taking her for a drink as she was already legless! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Thier standards are very high. I found civvie st hard in that regard |
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She roared with laughter saying “only Karen would get away with that one” that is dark humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat I too felt an alien when we came back from Rheindahlen! as a child #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat do you think your background is a large part of why you ‘get it’? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Veterans are not aliens, but they do think differently, they do have strong work ethics, ideal to return to work when recovered #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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@Richardblister #OTalk any link between sensory processing disorder and PTSD? |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk 😉 |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister a familiar concept from working in forensic #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat me personally, yes, I always wondered why my approach worked in acute #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JulieHughes2013 @Richardblister that is Davids passion…. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat That isn’t to say don’t let that put you off – I work with civvies #OTalk |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat Yes. where I come in is telling them that each person has his/her own experience. So need to communicate #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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anyone thinking of working with vets, then ask to spend a day shadowing #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Well time os flying past this evening… 10 minute warning. Any last burning questions for @Richardsblister ? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Helen_otuk @Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat i work people who are dealing with trauma in a diff way #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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whoa! that is quick – get out the shepherds crook. #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat @Richardsblister #OTalk Any additional resources to google/links? |
| Richardsblister |
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If anyone thinks of any burning questions after we finish, please do email me at work – I am happy to answer #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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We have lots of links to articles, research etc at work – happy to share #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Don’t forget I will not post the blog transcript for 24hrs so you can keep adding thoughts and reflections. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk does using MOHO help vets understand difficulties? |
| clissa89 |
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Is it worth signposting people to the FB group as well if they’re interested in veteran mental health? #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #O… |
| Helen_otuk |
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You will! RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Yes especially in relation to functioning on a daily level, motivation, communication, processing….. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 good idea clarissa – Military 4 OT great resource for facebook fans #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 #otalk that would be helpful |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk https://t.co/uCMrBMveD6 |
| Richardsblister |
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The time has gone so quickly! I could tell you so much more…but please do join the FB page and jump right in – David is ace too #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Ok last 5 mins, what are your take away thoughts? Actions? Goals? Learning points? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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we have recently posted kawa river flow for a veteran too #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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thanks for the chat interesting area of work, sounds like your making a positive impact! good luck with it all 🙂 #otalk @Richardsblister |
| Dai2584 |
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The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anyway. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus thank you, i love my job, i love my veterans, they gave so much, now its my turn to pay them back #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 would love too!! could i share with our vets? #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@OTalk_Occhat more research and looking for shadowing opportunities for me, thank you @Richardsblister and others for tonight #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT @OTalk_Occhat Dont ever give up, it will change your life! #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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Thank you great #OTalk tonight |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk thank you. 🙂 |
| Richardsblister |
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You are all very very welcome – my vets will be overjoyed that someone cares! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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p.s. you can also find me on linkedin under Karen Miles #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Thank you so much to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening, excellent topic and really busy chat! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk . yeah. it only short though. |
| Richardsblister |
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BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 feel free to talk via linkedin David #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Thank you Helen OTUK for holding my hand and talking me into this, its been fantastic! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat thank you both for facilitating tonight’s chat! #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| MissHeldi |
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@Dai2584 #OTalk Thanks for posting this. Whether political or not, it’s always useful to read personal experiences to get a realistic pic. |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat xxxx speak soon Clarissa xxxx #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I am so glad you did. Really great topic. Thank you. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister you’ve already got one at least 😉 #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria xx thanks #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Excellent, we are pleased. RT @CroftVictoria: Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 you are welcome, so glad you made it! #OTalk |
| effnol |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly.â€@_rehabilitate |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| DrWMB |
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“@Richardsblister: Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk†great work happening |
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RT @clissa89: #OTuesday I’ve written a quick blog post in preparation for tonight’s #OTalk “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” http://t.… |
| tylyrurap |
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#OTalk #CongestiveHeartFailure http://t.co/Qyl4PsgWPX In the #BananaRepublic of America, financial crimes go uninvestigated, unindicted |
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What was s the subject of #OTalk yesterday? So busy we missed it! |
| sarahahpmh |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 An infomative blog David, your own veteran experience will give OT new perspectives #otalk |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 Beginning new work here veterans and with two OT veterans in team, we are lucky #OTalk. |
| CPDonline |
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Always enjoy #Otalk . Would like to contribute more… |
| BillWongOT |
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Hello everyone. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Please be mindful of your code of ethics / confidentiality and professionalism as we kick off this evenings #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am not a natural tweeter so please be patient with my answers….but i do type quickly! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Hi Bill, we meet again! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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Hi everyone! Tweeting from a noisy pub tonight, with an ice cold lemonade in hand and large candle in front of me. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk would like to say a big hello and thank you to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening. OT and veterans with PTSD. Say hi to Karen. |
| Richardsblister |
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Ok, I am ready this end, if I go eek, its because of the spider in the room! my real room! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 no change there then Clarissa xx #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Good Evening #OTalk looking forward to an interesting chat….. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister take care…. #OTalk those spider are leggy! |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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Hello All, I’m extremely interested in today’s topic and hope to learn from your collective wisdom! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Good evening all #otalk looking forward to tonight’s chat about OT and veterans with PTSD… |
| Richardsblister |
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Hi to all, fire away when you are ready – please excuse the pun #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Has everyone seen Karen’s post? http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL #OTalk |
| Keeper85 |
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#otalk hi all! I’m awake!! |
| BillWongOT |
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My only significant experiences with veterans were when I was worshipping with them at my church. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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We will nitter natter fir a few mins while you all have a chance to read over then ask Karen any questions you have…. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister From a brief look at the website, I’m thinking this isn’t the kind of work a new graduate could do..? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Great to see you at #otalk @Keeper85 |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@MissHeldi hello Heldi great to have you join us. #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 enjoy the lemonade…. ear plugs? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: While you are all waiting for kick off take a look at http://t.co/DQqi8slkMS #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@_beckyOT good evening Becky. #OTalk |
| MaryBoothOT |
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Here sorry later #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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seems to be a server issue this on let me refresh #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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Hello everyone #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JuliaHelenOT glad you find the topic of interest. #otalk |
| OTprocess |
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@richardsblister what are common occupational performance issues for your clients?#Otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister that’s encouraging (MOD work appears to require band 6/7) #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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Here sorry I’m late #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@tabbycats4 @afrightfulfiend @shhhsharn @SophAlexanderOT @LithiumLibGirl no spoilers please. 😦 Ive had to choose btwn #gbbo & #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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Does military OT’s in the UK have to go through specific trainings/education? I know the US has an OTD program 4 army OT’s. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Don’t let being newly qualified put you off applying to work with veterans, passion over-rules experience in my humble opinion #OTalk |
| mksiddiqee |
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RT @Dai2584: Hello everyone #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Keeper85 yay for the early bird! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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are you all still here? #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Dai2584 evening David. #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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Perhaps a bit of obvious Q @RichardsBlister, but how does your day-to-day work differ from a CBT therapist’s? #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister yes we are #OTalk are you? |
| CroftVictoria |
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Watching the chat from Northern Ireland #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Fascinating to follow @armyOTguy – interesting to see his varied role with veterans #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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I visited Combat Stress, and found the atmosphere very welcoming and calming. Also impressed by resources 🙂 #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now and future #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@CroftVictoria great to have you join us from over the water #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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joining you a little later…bedtime routine interfering again! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Am I right in thinking that historically veterans have been accused of being ‘weak’ if they disclose any mental health difficulties? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk yes helen, this just has to be refreshed now and then #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| danielleb_90 |
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@OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi I saw PTSD more in community rather than in an acute setting. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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#otalk In Wales if vets just have PTSD they go to primary MH veterans service. If they have SMI also they will come to the CMHT. rest of UK? |
| Richardsblister |
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@bobcollinsOT Yes bob, one of the reasons they delay in getting help, but this is getting less and less thank goodness #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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many veteran organisations in my local area don’t have ahp as part of team…seems a big miss to me #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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RT @MissHeldi: Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Vets come to combat stress from all over UK, we deliver a unique inpatient service with amazingly positive results #OTalk |
| BillWongOT |
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What are the common assessments you have used for this population? #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@peapodicus yes what a missed opportunity! seems obvious that active duty could disrupt/impact on occupation? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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That is a real shame! @peapodicus #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Currently OSA and MOHOST – only because they currently fit, but maybe in the future recovery star, but need our own #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Dai2584 in the northeast Darlington mh health hospital has the contract for MOD they have their own ward, #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi how did you make sense of this difference? (I’ve seen plenty of non-combat PTSD in inpatient) #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister @BillWongOT I wonder if there will be a veteran-specific version of the Recovery Star, as the Star grows #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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I have met vets in CMHT and MH In-patient unit. Combat Stress services involved #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 not to mention life changing physical and mental experiences…not sure how team make up was decided #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister my friends who are veterans have spoken about very real struggles re-adjusting to “civvy street” #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria we do refer back out into the community, if we can! many are successful once we have cleared the pathway #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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What is the OSA? @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 they will clarissa – communication between civvies and veterans is different, they think very black and white #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@BoothRach #otalk in wales we have a primary care All wales service, 8 session cbt type thing or normal MH service. no vet rehab/ wards |
| Richardsblister |
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@_beckyOT @BillWongOT Occupational Self Assessment – based on MOHO #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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do combat stress or similar employ ahps elsewhere in UK? #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@_beckyOT @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #otalk occupational self assessment |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Seen PTSD symptoms in non-combat but unless the ind is v suicidal, usually no admission. |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorders. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus we have 3 locations, Scotland, Leatherhead in Surrey and Shropshire #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: @BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@peapodicus try to remember #OTalk so all can see your tweets. |
| Richardsblister |
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The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: was discussing this today with friend, her relative thought if he admitted it then would ruin chance of promotion… |
| BillWongOT |
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This is another app I have come across on PTSD. https://t.co/zoIqh0qQrB #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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When I visited Combat Stress, noticed how familiar @RichardsBlister was with organisational culture/language – important! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this issue too #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volition |
| ivan_goma |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this is… |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister it does help to have knowledge of the culture, you gain credibility if you “get it” #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister all have ot? #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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I am seeing that as combat PTSD isn’t often seen in inpt, staff struggles to differentiate between aggression/distress sources. #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volit… |
| Dai2584 |
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RT @BillWongOT: This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@clissa89 @Richardsblister I’ve family members in RAF and can’t understand a word they are talking about when they get onto work! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 part of my role is to show them they do still have those skills by using meaningful occupation as a guide #OTalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Yes, I think Scotland is our closest location. @Richardsblister Can Police Officers go there too? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria No victoria, on ex service personnel – Hollybush House in Ayrshire covers scotland #OTalk |
| danielleb_90 |
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RT @MissHeldi: @clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipola… |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi THe aggression label is really just that, with our programme many learn how to manage this more effectively #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister what kind input do you get from the MOD? #otalk |
| pluminmouth |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: @pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk.” @mrssculduggery , FYI 🙂 |
| BillWongOT |
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This is relevant for today’s #otalk http://t.co/Q548Cw3w8V |
| Richardsblister |
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There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats really (grin) #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats … |
| BoothRach |
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@MissHeldi i guess thats why there should be specialist wards for MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT ~We work alongside the MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @MissHeldi Yes, I started life on acute and I would be given the vets because i could communicate with them #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: old fashioned and unhelpful. any opportunity to do work directly with army, mental wellbeing/recovery etc? |
| Dai2584 |
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@MissHeldi #otalk we have that problem in prison i.e. aggression/ anxiety where then question PTSD with Vets |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I so wish, but they are probably too busy defending our freedom to worry about what may happen to them #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus not just caution for blocking promotion. Self-ID as having #PTSD of any sort can endanger employment #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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aggression comes from their training to react, which is how we explain it to them. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat ha…hmm yes #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I find talking to the employers really helps them understand and to put things in place #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did?… |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk Ive still got the self control in that regard but Ive lost my aggression. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am talking more to police, asking them to find out if the person they have in custody is a vet..and then to ascertain if poss ptsd #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat yes and of course many other areas of life and function #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Dai2584 would you say that is an advantage to retain the self control? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 a large part of our cohorts also report similar – we talk about how to put coping mechanisms in place #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister On the other hand, I’ve met some of the most lovely characters with many talents, whether it’s cooking or art. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat #otalk so possibly more senior ranking soldiers masking trauma whilst dealing with more trauma.. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, brilliant workers #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@rebexxa dont forget you #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister Do you have a lot of contact with other services like police etc? Does this help support vets? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat senior ranks do suffer, but not so many #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk where ever I can, with who ever I can, I cannot spread the word enough, they cannot help getting ptsd, its a process fail #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk the vets in prison I work with, I try and remind them on self control. talk about shared experiance |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 I find that getting them to assess the situation, will they still be angry about this in 6 months, they normally laugh…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat why do you think that is #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk I agree it’s one of the issues: communication. There’s also lack of general awareness re PTSD. |
| Dai2584 |
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@Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister #OTalk Could not agree more! |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, br… |
| Helen_otuk |
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Yay for OT! RT @Dai2584: @Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @Helen_otuk I have said to 3 of my veterans, they would make great OT’s, one has taken me up on the offer! #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 Maybe you could get David to talk to them too? #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @BoothRach PTSD has been reclassified – amygdala does not talk to hippocampus…. #OTalk |
| Rossifumiuk |
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#OTalk The senior rank and PTSD is an interesting subject that links into resilience. Why do some get PTSD and others do not. Its facinating |
| rebexxa |
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#otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of humour. |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh if you are there, you can chip in!!! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat I hear clients tell me reactions vary between over-sympathy and confusion on how to respond #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JulieHughes2013 good evening Julie. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh is my trusted colleague and confident folks pls make him welcome #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @rebexxa: #otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of … |
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@Rossifumiuk Hi David, great to have you with us #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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yay RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| BoothRach |
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RT @JulieHughes2013: hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @rebexxa @BoothRach it is the dark humour that keeps them going – I also have that dark humour, its inherited lol #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @JulieHughes2013 I think the jury is still out on that one, you need to process trauma, properly…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister hi david #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I think that ‘dark’ humour is present in many different ‘walks of life’ not jsut vets? #otalk |
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eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you have processed #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk i guess many veterans particularly may feel a civilian couldn’t understand? |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk probably, some surgeons I know also have that humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat they do initially, but we show them that they can with effective communication #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat more senior …more resilience? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Most soliders ok with civvies. As long as you are good at what u do. |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required… |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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“@rebexxa: @Richardsblister @BoothRach iv not encounterd the humour anywhere else” #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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I can’t speak for David, but I have never had a problem with our veterans as far as getting along is concerned. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk that would rule me our fascinating area of work |
| Helen_otuk |
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Top tip! RT @Richardsblister: @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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@Richardsblister #Otalk I like this concept of processing and recalling, or not, difficult sensations. |
| bobcollinsOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you hav… |
| Richardsblister |
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When a friend of mine was paralysed after an rta, I said that it was pointless taking her for a drink as she was already legless! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Thier standards are very high. I found civvie st hard in that regard |
| Richardsblister |
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She roared with laughter saying “only Karen would get away with that one” that is dark humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat I too felt an alien when we came back from Rheindahlen! as a child #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat do you think your background is a large part of why you ‘get it’? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Veterans are not aliens, but they do think differently, they do have strong work ethics, ideal to return to work when recovered #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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@Richardblister #OTalk any link between sensory processing disorder and PTSD? |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk 😉 |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister a familiar concept from working in forensic #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat me personally, yes, I always wondered why my approach worked in acute #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JulieHughes2013 @Richardblister that is Davids passion…. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat That isn’t to say don’t let that put you off – I work with civvies #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat Yes. where I come in is telling them that each person has his/her own experience. So need to communicate #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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anyone thinking of working with vets, then ask to spend a day shadowing #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Well time os flying past this evening… 10 minute warning. Any last burning questions for @Richardsblister ? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Helen_otuk @Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat i work people who are dealing with trauma in a diff way #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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whoa! that is quick – get out the shepherds crook. #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat @Richardsblister #OTalk Any additional resources to google/links? |
| Richardsblister |
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If anyone thinks of any burning questions after we finish, please do email me at work – I am happy to answer #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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We have lots of links to articles, research etc at work – happy to share #OTalk |
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Don’t forget I will not post the blog transcript for 24hrs so you can keep adding thoughts and reflections. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk does using MOHO help vets understand difficulties? |
| clissa89 |
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Is it worth signposting people to the FB group as well if they’re interested in veteran mental health? #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #O… |
| Helen_otuk |
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You will! RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Yes especially in relation to functioning on a daily level, motivation, communication, processing….. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 good idea clarissa – Military 4 OT great resource for facebook fans #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 #otalk that would be helpful |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk https://t.co/uCMrBMveD6 |
| Richardsblister |
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The time has gone so quickly! I could tell you so much more…but please do join the FB page and jump right in – David is ace too #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Ok last 5 mins, what are your take away thoughts? Actions? Goals? Learning points? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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we have recently posted kawa river flow for a veteran too #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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thanks for the chat interesting area of work, sounds like your making a positive impact! good luck with it all 🙂 #otalk @Richardsblister |
| Dai2584 |
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The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anyway. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus thank you, i love my job, i love my veterans, they gave so much, now its my turn to pay them back #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 would love too!! could i share with our vets? #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@OTalk_Occhat more research and looking for shadowing opportunities for me, thank you @Richardsblister and others for tonight #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT @OTalk_Occhat Dont ever give up, it will change your life! #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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Thank you great #OTalk tonight |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk thank you. 🙂 |
| Richardsblister |
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You are all very very welcome – my vets will be overjoyed that someone cares! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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p.s. you can also find me on linkedin under Karen Miles #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Thank you so much to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening, excellent topic and really busy chat! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk . yeah. it only short though. |
| Richardsblister |
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BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 feel free to talk via linkedin David #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Thank you Helen OTUK for holding my hand and talking me into this, its been fantastic! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat thank you both for facilitating tonight’s chat! #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| MissHeldi |
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@Dai2584 #OTalk Thanks for posting this. Whether political or not, it’s always useful to read personal experiences to get a realistic pic. |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat xxxx speak soon Clarissa xxxx #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I am so glad you did. Really great topic. Thank you. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister you’ve already got one at least 😉 #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria xx thanks #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Excellent, we are pleased. RT @CroftVictoria: Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
| effnol |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 you are welcome, so glad you made it! #OTalk |
| effnol |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly.â€@_rehabilitate |
| DrWMB |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| DrWMB |
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“@Richardsblister: Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk†great work happening |
| lauravassallo |
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RT @clissa89: #OTuesday I’ve written a quick blog post in preparation for tonight’s #OTalk “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” http://t.… |
| tylyrurap |
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#OTalk #CongestiveHeartFailure http://t.co/Qyl4PsgWPX In the #BananaRepublic of America, financial crimes go uninvestigated, unindicted |
| CPDonline |
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What was s the subject of #OTalk yesterday? So busy we missed it! |
| sarahahpmh |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 An infomative blog David, your own veteran experience will give OT new perspectives #otalk |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 Beginning new work here veterans and with two OT veterans in team, we are lucky #OTalk. |
| CPDonline |
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Always enjoy #Otalk . Would like to contribute more… |
